[AusNOG] Assistance in picking a router

Joshua D'Alton joshua at railgun.com.au
Wed Jul 17 22:49:44 EST 2013


OP replied "As now they have said its not configured correctly..."


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Craig Askings <craig at askings.com.au>wrote:

> Unless your underlying server is heavily oversubscribed, I doubt you will
> be having throughput issues at 30 mbit/s with your Vyatta server.
>
> One of my clients is doing 1 gigabit/s of ipsec encryption and routing
> with Vyatta virtual machines.
>
>
> On 17/07/2013, at 10:39 PM, Daniel Watson <daniel at glovine.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Gday Tim
> >
> > My provider have issued me with a Vyatta virtual router with a BGP
> session directly to them, they host and manage this VM router and have that
> router advertising our ASN and IPs
> >
> > Mind you AS132839 is one network, the other is AS132869. Same issues on
> both networks. Which are two seperate virtual routers. So its very odd
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 17/07/2013, at 22:34, "Tim March" <march.tim at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Your network appears to be AS132839. Either you're advertising it to
> your upstream via a device that you control or your provider is advertising
> it on your behalf. From what you're saying it sounds like they're
> advertising it on your behalf and probably just handing off a switched
> port. This is probably what you're actually talking about when you say
> you've got a "BGP routing table."
> >>
> >> If you're having serious issues that you believe are related to that
> device your first port of call is probably to harass the provider about it.
> Also, if you're talking about replacing a managed service with a piece of
> your own hardware there are more than likely commercial issues you'll need
> to overcome as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> T.
> >>
> >> On 17/07/13 10:20 PM, Daniel Watson wrote:
> >>> Gday Tim
> >>>
> >>> Thing here is. Our provider controls our router. Being Vyetta, we dont
> have access
> >>>
> >>> The only thing we have access too. Is the gear behind that, switches
> and servers ect ect
> >>>
> >>> All great advise thus far
> >>>
> >>> Ive been told we have a regular default BGP routing table aswell. So i
> hope that helps
> >>>
> >>> Daniel
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On 17/07/2013, at 22:09, "Tim March" <march.tim at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sure you'll get a load of great advice on buying a new routing
> platform. Skeeve will tell you to buy a Juniper. I'll tell you to buy a
> Cisco. Chairman Mao will tell you to buy a Huawei. They'll all do what you
> need them to better than whatever virtual appliance you're probably running
> now.
> >>>>
> >>>> The network issues you're describing could be symptomatic of a whole
> range of fairly disparate causes. The best thing you can do is get someone
> who knows what they're doing to sit down in front of your network, do some
> analysis and produce a plan to improve it. Assuming you just need to buy
> $RandomPieceOfHardwareSomeDudeOnAMailingListSuggested and your problems
> will go away is flipping a coin.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> T.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17/07/13 10:00 PM, Joshua D'Alton wrote:
> >>>>> Skeeve will be the man to answer this question, and maybe even the
> man
> >>>>> to supply you with the juniper (to do it (unless you want to go ebay
> cisco).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As an aside, NDA permitting, surely this isn't for Glovine?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Reading your last reply, some SRX is what you'll want I think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Skeeve Stevens
> >>>>> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
> >>>>> <mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Do you have more than one upstream?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Also.. can you confirm the size of the link and that you will need
> >>>>>   2Gb/s throughput.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   ...Skeeve
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
> >>>>>   skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com
> >>>>>   <mailto:skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com> ;
> www.eintellegonetworks.com
> >>>>>   <http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383
> >>>>>   <tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383> ; skype://skeeve
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   facebook.com/eintellegonetworks
> >>>>>   <http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ;
> >>>>>   <http://twitter.com/networkceoau>linkedin.com/in/skeeve
> >>>>>   <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   twitter.com/networkceoau <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> ; blog:
> >>>>>   www.network-ceo.net <http://www.network-ceo.net/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   The Experts Who The Experts Call
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Juniper - Cisco - Cloud
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Watson
> >>>>>   <daniel at glovine.com.au <mailto:daniel at glovine.com.au>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       Gday Tony
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       Speed would only need to be a max of 2gbit realistically..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       As for the BGP table. Id have to come back on that one..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       No firewall or NAT needed.  Just a basic router
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       Sorry i cant be of more infomation. Im a bit unsure myself :S
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       I know our provider passes through a BGP session currently. And
> >>>>>       the virtual router handles our ASN and IP prefixes
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       Regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       D.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       On 17/07/2013, at 21:39, "Tony" <td_miles at yahoo.com
> >>>>>       <mailto:td_miles at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>       Hi Daniel,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>       You probably need to supply a little bit more information, the
> >>>>>>       most important being what speed is your connection and are you
> >>>>>>       taking a full BGP table (and if you are, do you really need
> >>>>>>       to) ? Do you want the router to do anything else (NAT,
> >>>>>>       firewall, make you a cup of coffee, etc ?). Any preference for
> >>>>>>       vendor ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>       regards,
> >>>>>>       Tony.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>           *From:* Daniel Watson <daniel at glovine.com.au
> >>>>>>           <mailto:daniel at glovine.com.au>>
> >>>>>>           *To:* "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> >>>>>>           <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <
> ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> >>>>>>           <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
> >>>>>>           *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 July 2013 9:34 PM
> >>>>>>           *Subject:* [AusNOG] Assistance in picking a router
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            Gday Noggers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>           I need some assistance from the community in looking at
> >>>>>>           routers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>           We only need a basic router
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>           Our provider provides us with a BGP session from their
> >>>>>>           core to our virtual router at present,  But our virtual
> >>>>>>           router is not coping very well
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>           Can the community please have an open discussion with me,
> >>>>>>           as to what i should be looking at  in the way of routers?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>           Regards
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>           D.
> >>>>>>
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