[AusNOG] Assistance in picking a router
James Braunegg
james.braunegg at micron21.com
Wed Jul 17 22:35:18 EST 2013
Dear Daniel
If you only have one upstream provider, I would question if you even need to run your own router... why not let your upstream provider advertise your IP ranges for you, let them do BGP which will allow you to do just switching downstream.
Because it sounds like your only taking a default route the other option is maybe not even looking at a router. Instead I'd look at a nice layer 3 switch with BGP which will outperform most low end software routers from a packet per second point of view.
Kindest Regards
James Braunegg
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From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Joshua D'Alton
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Daniel Watson
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Assistance in picking a router
Being single-homed you don't even really technically need a full-blown router depending on the other features you need, some basic layer3 switch with appropriate connectivity will do the job, though future proofing will be hard as especially you want a 2nd transit provider down the track maybe.
SRX220 might be all you need, not sure on the price of that exactly but should only be a few thousand.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Daniel Watson <daniel at glovine.com.au<mailto:daniel at glovine.com.au>> wrote:
Gday Tim
Thing here is. Our provider controls our router. Being Vyetta, we dont have access
The only thing we have access too. Is the gear behind that, switches and servers ect ect
All great advise thus far
Ive been told we have a regular default BGP routing table aswell. So i hope that helps
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On 17/07/2013, at 22:09, "Tim March" <march.tim at gmail.com<mailto:march.tim at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I'm sure you'll get a load of great advice on buying a new routing platform. Skeeve will tell you to buy a Juniper. I'll tell you to buy a Cisco. Chairman Mao will tell you to buy a Huawei. They'll all do what you need them to better than whatever virtual appliance you're probably running now.
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> The network issues you're describing could be symptomatic of a whole range of fairly disparate causes. The best thing you can do is get someone who knows what they're doing to sit down in front of your network, do some analysis and produce a plan to improve it. Assuming you just need to buy $RandomPieceOfHardwareSomeDudeOnAMailingListSuggested and your problems will go away is flipping a coin.
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> T.
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> On 17/07/13 10:00 PM, Joshua D'Alton wrote:
>> Skeeve will be the man to answer this question, and maybe even the man
>> to supply you with the juniper (to do it (unless you want to go ebay cisco).
>>
>> As an aside, NDA permitting, surely this isn't for Glovine?
>>
>> Reading your last reply, some SRX is what you'll want I think.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Skeeve Stevens
>> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com<mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>
>> <mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com<mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Do you have more than one upstream?
>>
>> Also.. can you confirm the size of the link and that you will need
>> 2Gb/s throughput.
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
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>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Watson
>> <daniel at glovine.com.au<mailto:daniel at glovine.com.au> <mailto:daniel at glovine.com.au<mailto:daniel at glovine.com.au>>> wrote:
>>
>> Gday Tony
>>
>> Speed would only need to be a max of 2gbit realistically..
>>
>> As for the BGP table. Id have to come back on that one..
>>
>> No firewall or NAT needed. Just a basic router
>>
>> Sorry i cant be of more infomation. Im a bit unsure myself :S
>>
>> I know our provider passes through a BGP session currently. And
>> the virtual router handles our ASN and IP prefixes
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> D.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 17/07/2013, at 21:39, "Tony" <td_miles at yahoo.com<mailto:td_miles at yahoo.com>
>> <mailto:td_miles at yahoo.com<mailto:td_miles at yahoo.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> You probably need to supply a little bit more information, the
>>> most important being what speed is your connection and are you
>>> taking a full BGP table (and if you are, do you really need
>>> to) ? Do you want the router to do anything else (NAT,
>>> firewall, make you a cup of coffee, etc ?). Any preference for
>>> vendor ?
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Tony.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Daniel Watson <daniel at glovine.com.au<mailto:daniel at glovine.com.au>
>>> <mailto:daniel at glovine.com.au<mailto:daniel at glovine.com.au>>>
>>> *To:* "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>>> <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>>> <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 July 2013 9:34 PM
>>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Assistance in picking a router
>>>
>>> Gday Noggers
>>>
>>> I need some assistance from the community in looking at
>>> routers
>>>
>>> We only need a basic router
>>>
>>> Our provider provides us with a BGP session from their
>>> core to our virtual router at present, But our virtual
>>> router is not coping very well
>>>
>>> Can the community please have an open discussion with me,
>>> as to what i should be looking at in the way of routers?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> D.
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