[AusNOG] 40G/100G

Ankit Agrawal ankitagrawals at gmail.com
Thu Feb 14 15:31:01 EST 2013


Agree with all of you.

For now, using few 10GEs in LAG is fine and that mitigates the expense for
a 40GE port which I agree is more popular in the server infrastructure and
not so common in the ISP space when you need high throughput. Most ISP
vendors prefer to go to 100GE as opposed to 40GE which makes sense. The
reason I put 40GE as an option in my requirement for port density and
scalability was around server network and connectivity to internal
infrastructure and not so much on the transit provider path.

The price for 100GE was significantly high before but has dropped now and
probably in few month's time, it will come down enough to justify
upgrading to 100GE.

General consensus I guess will be to continue doing 10GE LAG and later use
40GE for server infrastructure and 100GE for transit side and even
internal connectivity if you can.

Ankit.

On 13/02/13 6:27 PM, "Cameron Daniel" <cdaniel at nurve.com.au> wrote:

>The price for a 100Gb router port is significantly less than that these
>days, at least on Brocade equipment. I believe they've recently dropped
>the price on the 2x100Gb MLX cards so might be worth another look.
>
>It gets even more affordable if you're prepared to use third party
>optics but without the scale it's still cheaper to run n*10Gb regardless
>of the vendor.
>
>Cameron
>
>On 2013-02-13 4:13 pm, James Braunegg wrote:
>> Dear Ankit
>>
>> The cost of 100gbit ports are extremely expensive....last time I
>> checked it was like $250k per port !!
>>
>> Likewise 40gb ports are also up there in price... you would be better
>> bonding 10gbit ports to begin with, and putting in larger interface
>> cards when required.
>>
>> Whilst it might be great having 40gbit and 100gbit ports you need to
>> make sure your upstream can provide you those ports to connect into
>> also...
>>
>> Kindest Regards
>>
>> James Braunegg
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
>> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Ankit Agrawal
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:39 PM
>> To: Darren Ward; Craig Askings; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 40G/100G
>>
>> If I can get 100 GE at the cost of 40 or even 10, I'd be happy to
>> move straight to 100 GE, which is much better in every respect.
>>
>> I mentioned 40G as an option so I could get you to sell me 100G for
>> the price of 10G :)
>>
>> Ankit.
>>
>> On 13/02/13 9:08 AM, "Darren Ward" <darward at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thought I'd float this into a separate thread to see if it started
>>>anything...
>>>
>>>Also probably starting a flame war but I would have to say you'd be
>>> the
>>>first SP I've seen locally to deploy 40G for routing - everyone is
>>>pretty much just making the jump over that to 100G especially since
>>> you
>>>can get more bandwidth per slot/chassis/RU given currently available
>>>cards and range isn't a factor with 3000km+ distances out of the
>>> router
>>>now with coherent receiver technology (only optical amplifiers on
>>>path, zero OEO/TXP's - no 100G interfaces except the end points)
>>>
>>>I have seen server vendors mention 40GigE on high-density
>>>virtualisation boxes though inside the DC... once again necessitation
>>>100G in the aggregation/core you would think
>>>
>>>Darren
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
>>>[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Ankit Agrawal
>>>Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2013 3:34 AM
>>>To: Craig Askings; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] powerful routers in core/edge routing/switching
>>>
>>>Looking at few 10 and couple 40 GE ports with option to add 100 GE in
>>>future.
>>>
>>
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