[AusNOG] Juniper vs Cisco vs Brocade - what's best for BGP routing?

[Robert Hudson]

The reseller in this case can absolutely answer basic questions (and much
more complex ones for that matter) - but by the same token, if you want to
get much more in-depth info, that's why vendors have presales engineers. :)


On 11 December 2013 17:39, Skeeve Stevens <
skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:

> Rob,
>
> Just a note.  If a reseller can't answer some basic technical questions,
> they shouldn't be selling the product in the first place.
>
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> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> My understanding is that the Brocade CES/CER options would meet your
>> requirements as stated (including the budget).
>>
>> Let me know if you want that reseller contact - what they can't answer on
>> a technical basis, they'll push up to the Brocade presales engineering team.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> On 11 December 2013 17:30, Andrew White <admin at uberskilled.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> Wow, thanks for all the replies - both on and off list. There's some
>>> fantastic ones here and some great information.
>>>
>>> To answer some of the questions:
>>>
>>> My budget is somewhere in the $5-15k range. I can go higher, but I'm not
>>> super comfortable doing so unless there's a good ROI reason to do so.
>>> Obviously bang for buck is important, as I'm not a huge business.
>>>
>>> In house support is a good point. I do have a CCNA and have a reasonable
>>> network topology and interconnectivity understanding - I'd imagine anything
>>> (as long as it has documentation) I can learn and support over time.
>>>
>>> Throughput is only about 150mbit bursing to 200mbit currently, but
>>> expansion is definitely planned and future proofing is wanted.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about picking how many interfaces I need. I guess a couple
>>> for upstream, a couple for future upstreams, and maybe 4-6 for back into
>>> the network (for future proofing, I have 2 internal core routers currently).
>>>
>>> There's been a few suggestions of a physical Linux box or Linux VM. What
>>> would be the advantages/disadvantages of this compared to routing hardware?
>>>
>>> Thanks guys, I really appreciate the great responses!
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Andrew White <admin at uberskilled.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>> I've recently set up my own AS and I'm looking at broadcasting my own
>>>> BGP. I'm wanting to find some decent hardware at a reasonable price to do
>>>> so.
>>>>
>>>> The same router will also run my servers (about 50 VMs/3 physical
>>>> boxes) and have to deal with multiple upstream providers (two currently,
>>>> but more to come at my DC).
>>>>
>>>> I also want something that can hold a big BGP routing table.
>>>>
>>>> When I was first getting into networking, Cisco was "the big thing".
>>>> Now I look at the market and Junipers seem really common for the cheaper
>>>> end of the market. I've seen Brocades too - I think they may be out of my
>>>> price range, but I'm not sure if they're worth the money or if there's a
>>>> huge benefit.
>>>>
>>>> I've been tossing up over a few Huawei models which are really, really
>>>> cheap!
>>>>
>>>> I don't know a ton about the hardware side of things and I'm sure there
>>>> are others on the list with a similar level of knowledge to me. I'm happy
>>>> for any vendor contacts, and I'm sure replies on list would be appreciated
>>>> for other people to learn about this too!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks guys!
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>
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