[AusNOG] Vocus peer with TPG

[Mark ZZZ Smith]

----- Original Message -----
> From: Luke Iggleden <luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au>
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, 9 December 2013 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus peer with TPG
> 
> Vocus is 'peered' traffic with TPG via WAIX (in WA). Its not up to Vocus 
> 
> to select best route path for TPG, they are presenting most of their 
> routes to WA(ix)?
> 
> TPG should do the 'right' thing and peer at all IX-Australia peering 
> points or with others bi-laterally if they want to improve latency & 
> performance.
> 

I wish all ISPs in Australia would do the 'right' thing and peer with my network at home. I'd much rather not have to pay my ISP for all domestic and transit traffic.


> I believe its a commercial decision as to why they do not peer with 
> anyone else other than via (their own) PIPE peering.
> 

Peering is about mutual benefit. If one party doesn't receive enough benefits, or provides too many to the other party, it isn't peering.

Benefits can be in the eye of the beholder. TPG must consider they would be providing more value than they'd be getting from peering at all IXes, so they've chosen not to. That may or may not be a commercial decision (although ultimately it could be measured in financial terms).

If people think that is unfair, then they're probably the ones that would receive the greater benefit in the 'peering' relationship. It's ends up being a self-serving complaint.

> 

> 
> On 9/12/2013 7:28 pm, Daniel Watson wrote:
>>  I know this may sound STUPID
>> 
>>  But why do Vocus not peer directly with TPG in Melbourne and route via
>>  Sydney?
>> 
>>  https://prefix.pch.net/applications/ixpdir/detail.php?exchange_point_id=8
>> 
>>  Hopefully somebody from Vocus or TPG on list can let us all know why?
>>    And hopefully fix this :D
>> 
>>  Poor Melbourne always gets left behind...
>> 
>>  D.
>> 
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