[AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations

James Matthews james.matthews.au at gmail.com
Fri Aug 16 21:30:31 EST 2013 

While I'm sure we can all agree that Vocus is a great company who are
awesome to deal with, vibes and reckoning aren't the same as scientific
facts :)  Until that time comes we are all just using hearsay regarding
who's the biggest.

Having redundancy amongst transit providers is a business no-brainer
regardless of how good our primary provider is...


JM


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Jared Hirst <
jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:

> Well we buy over a gbit from Vocus, so I am SURE that makes up something?
>
> We are a small fish in the sea.... I can imagine how many other bigger
> players there are out there, and I reckon they don't buy from Telstra /
> Optus. So the routes = volume *may* be valid in this case?
>
> I am not 100% sure but It seems legit to me that they do run a pretty
> massive number 1or 2 network?!?!?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jared Hirst
> Servers Australia Pty Ltd
> Phone: +61 2 8115 8888
> Direct: +61 2 8115 8801
>
> On 16 Aug 2013, at 9:13 pm, Tom Berryman <tom at connectivityit.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>  Routes != volume (…..)
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *Jared Hirst
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 August 2013 8:54 PM
> *To:* Cameron Daniel
> *Cc:* <AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations
>
>
>
> According to he.net they have the most amount of routes in AU!
>
>
>
> http://bgp.he.net/country/AU
>
>
>
>  Regards,
>
>
>
> Jared Hirst
>
> Servers Australia Pty Ltd
>
> Phone: +61 2 8115 8888
>
> Direct: +61 2 8115 8801
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>
> On 16 Aug 2013, at 8:35 pm, Cameron Daniel <cdaniel at nurve.com.au> wrote:
>
>  I'd be interested to know where you're getting this from. Vocus run a
> great transit network but I think second largest is a big call...
>
> On 2013-08-16 4:34 pm, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>
>  They are the second biggest AU providers of IP Transit after Telstra.
>
>  Nathan Brookfield
>
>  Chief Executive Officer
>
>  Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>
>  http://www.simtronic.com.au [3]
>
>  On 16/08/2013, at 15:40, "Joshua D'Alton" <joshua at railgun.com.au>
>
>  wrote:
>
>  Vocus is a fairly significant AU player, if you're looking for a
>
>  complete alternate path for all your routes then you definitely are
>
>  looking at Go4, most if not all others actually have Vocus in their
>
>  upstreams too funnily enough.
>
>  On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Andrew Yager <andrew at rwts.com.au>
>
>  wrote:
>
>  Hi All,
>
>   Yep - preceisly. Vocus is great; rock solid, and very few issues. I
>
>   can't say never - but they are responsive and quick to act. I
>
>   considered the "vocus only" approach - because their product is
>
>   great (read "give me a discount please") - but really we need to be
>
>   confident that if an issue occurs that we have an alternate path to
>
>   route the traffic. As people have suggested from a a business
>
>   perspective, multiple provider routes are important, and really
>
>   necessary in my mind for getting traffic around.
>
>   Thanks for the many who have reached out and responded, still
>
>   interested in thoughts. :)
>
>   Andrew
>
>   --
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>   ANDREW YAGER, MANAGING DIRECTOR _(MACS Snr CP BCompSc MCP MCE
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>   On 16/08/2013, at 2:45 PM, Jared Hirst
>
>   <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>
>   +1 Dual ports / sessions with Vocus.
>
>    Never had an issue. *touch wood*
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>
>    From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>]
> On Behalf
>
>    Of Sean K.
>
>    Finn
>
>    Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 2:36 PM
>
>    To: 'Andrew Yager'; <AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
>
>    Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations
>
>    I know this sounds strange, but why not ask Vocus to deliver you
>
>    diversity
>
>    themselves?
>
>    Possibly they can also provide private backhaul between the two
>
>    points
>
>    where they hand off to you, and, heck, maybe even protect it if
>
>    you ask
>
>    nicely enough.
>
>    I use them for Transit as well as Intercap and other private
>
>    local
>
>    connectivity and haven't seen a blip in two years on Intercap or
>
>    Transit.
>
>    May as well get your carrier to do all the hard work in
>
>    protecting
>
>    connectivity to your pops - that's what you pay them for.
>
>    Sean.
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>
>    From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>]
> On Behalf
>
>    Of Andrew
>
>    Yager
>
>    Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 10:51 AM
>
>    To: <AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
>
>    Subject: [AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations
>
>    Hi All,
>
>    Aware that this question is asked all the time.
>
>    Looking for recommendations for a "diverse" path to Vocus for
>
>    500Mbps -
>
>    1Gbps (95th/burstable) with handoff in GS, Eqx and NextDC M1;
>
>    preferably
>
>    with the ability to deliver on a 10G port "in the future" should
>
>    our needs
>
>    require.
>
>    Had been considering AAPT but had some interesting feedback
>
>    around product
>
>    support that is making me think twice. Would be interested in
>
>    off-list
>
>    thoughts of other reasonable options. :)
>
>    Thanks,
>
>    Andrew
>
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