[AusNOG] Why is peering in Australia so hard?

[Joshua D'Alton]

Shame you just missed my other reply, but it would seem indeed there is a
massive pricebook difference in AU now.

Quotes I have only 8 months ago are 5x or more what you're alliterating to
here..

As a diversion to the OP, what is that said ~$1500 switch and is it truly
enterprise grade? Similarly 10k 10G router (full routing table?)? (take
off-list I guess).


On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>wrote:

> Josh – please read below
>
> From: Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au>
> Date: Sunday, 4 August 2013 4:56 PM
> To: Cameron Daniel <cdaniel at nurve.com.au>
> Cc: "ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Why is peering in Australia so hard?
>
> "True, but those small ISPs are single homed and will have quite simple
> setups. Indeed a cross connect or worst case some fiber interconnect might
> be relatively cheap, but peering requires talking BGP and that for a start
> requires more expensive gear (lol @ megaport $500/month for 10G, cheap on
> OPEX sure but a single fiber module will cost you a years worth of peering,
> and a router another 5-20yrs so the CAPEX is the issue there), and then the
> engineering side."
>
> Not sure if this is an attempt at FUD or just a general lack of
> understanding where 10G is in the year 2013.
>
> 10G Optics are somewhere between $100-$300 depending on vendor (fibre
> pair).  We also buy single fibre/bi-di  10G SFP+ for less than $500 each.
>  A couple of ISP's connecting to Megaport on Test Drive didn't have any 10G
> gear so we "loaned" them a Brocade switch (4x10G slots and 24x1G holes) for
> a grand total cost to us of somewhere around $1,500/switch.  In fact I just
> ordered another 12 of these said switches.  Regardless all these providers
> had 10G on their roadmap within 6-12 months so this is a good "bridge" for
> them (pun intended).
>
> So the actual cost of the optics is so low I'll give them to any Megaport
> customer because we buy them by the hundreds – literally.  And 10G switches
> are so cheap I buy them by the dozen.  10G capable routers are less than
> $10k.
>
> Probably time to get a new price book me thinks.
>
> [b]
>
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