[AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.

[Tony]

Given the beat up my MFU that THEY were being blocked, is there any evidence at all that the block was targeted at them specificly ? All I've seen says that "IP" was blocked. Adjacent addresses were not, suggesting that it was a block tageted at that specific IP address (not a subnet).

Various information suggests hundreds to over 1000 virtual hosts on the same IP address.

So now that the block has been reversed/removed is there any information to suggest:

1 . It was wrongly targeted at that IP ? (which I doubt)
2. The offending shared host (that was not MFU) has been taken down ?
3. The block has been removed due to the stink being created by MFU & EEF (and others) ?

I do realise the processes and that we'll probably never know, but just curious. I think some people don't quite understand what type of websites are requested to be blocked by this kind of request, it's not something that is done lightly.

Why didn't their hosting provider help them out by moving the vhost to an unaffected IP address ? As well as moving all the other affected hosts too ? Surely the hosting provider would know fairly quickly that a particular site was "not good" and move to shut it down.


On a totally unrelated note (not being in the hosting side of things) what is an "average" number of vhosts to have on a single IP address these days ? Probaly a "it depends" question with the basic answer being the less you're paying the more vhosts are crammed in on each box.


At the risk of stirring up a recent thread, bring on IPv6 so that all web hosts can have their own IP address to avoid collateral damage like this when a block is put in place.



regards,
Tony.




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> From: Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>
>To: Aqius <aqius at lavabit.com>; 'Serge Burjak' <sburjak at systech.com.au>; 'J Williams' <jphwilliams at gmail.com> 
>Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net 
>Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2013 11:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.
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>Nope – wrong.  You get a notice to block.  You block or either get fined, go to jail or lose your carrier licence.  It is a blunt instrument and it is a condition of being at "the big boys table" i.e. you're a carrier or a carriage service provider.  You don't ask too many questions, you don't post it to Ausnog and have a decision by committee.  You block the IP address as you are required to by law and you do it immediately.
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>End of story.
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>Again, this is a Network Operators List.  We know how this works.  Network Operators do not complain about this.  This is a legal requirement of being a Carrier or CSP in this country.  If this was a legal request it was implemented as planned.
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>PS:  If you're complaining that your client has no idea of why their website is down then instead of pointing the finger at the carriers who are doing what they are legally required to do, how about you explain to the client that you failed to adequately explain how "shared hosting" works and that the impact is sitting on a shared IP address with other sites can be.
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