[AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.

Tim Warnock timoid at timoid.org
Thu Apr 11 16:08:17 EST 2013


That IP on the Interpol filter?

Doesn’t work on Vodafone network either.

http://delimiter.com.au/2013/03/25/vodafone-sends-interpol-filter-live/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Danny O'Brien
> Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 3:53 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: [AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to
> melbournefreeuniversity.org.
> 
> Hi AusNOG,
> 
> Apologies for the interruption -- I work for the Electronic Frontier Foundation
> in the US, and usually lurk on the NANOG lists, asking the occasional curious
> question about once a decade (Including "Where did Egypt just go?"
> http://seclists.org/nanog/2011/Jan/1416 and "What happens when Ripe.net
> doesn't pay their domain fees?" http://seclists.org/nanog/1998/Apr/50 ).
> 
> My question to this even more distinguished audience is a little narrower:
> 
> We got a message from Melbourne Free University yesterday, whose site
> hosted at 198.136.54.104 in the US was unavailable from Optus and Telstra
> consumer users.
> 
> It looks to me that this specific IP is being patchily blackholed, mostly from
> Australian addresses. My working assumption is that this is due to DDOS
> mitigation.
> 
> The reason why Melbourne Free University got in touch with us, though, was
> that when they contacted their own broadband service provider., Exetel, to
> complain, their support eventually told them that upstream, AAPT, was
> blocking it due to an Australian government request, and could say no more
> about it. (The ticket is below.)
> 
> MFU is understandably a bit disturbed by such a statement from their ISP, as
> are we. I *am* at this stage assuming miscommunication rather than
> government action. I've reached out to AAPT and Exetel, and been banging
> on BGP looking glasses and traceroutes all day, and not getting much
> response, so I thought I'd broaden out the query and ask you all:
> 
> 1) Is anyone here blackholing 198.136.54.104 or the /20 (though I've seen
> people being able to reach .103 and .105 fine, but lose 104) for DDOS or other
> operational reasons?
> 
> 2) Hypothetically, can anyone suggest a Federal court order or government
> process that would lead to such a blackhole for *non*-operational reasons?
> 
> Thank you for your attention -- I hope your curiousity is as piqued as mine
> was.
> 
> d.
> 
> >     Please note that we regret to inform that the IP address has been
> blocked
> >     by Australian authority for undisclosed reasons.
> >
> >     As per our supplier, due to the legal department our supplier is unable to
> >     share any information regarding the blocking of the IP address. Therefore
> >     we are not able to provide the details regarding who has blocked the IP
> or
> >     why because the supplier wont provide these info.
> >
> >     Also note that our supplier is unable to have this IP unblocked.
> >
> >     Level 1 - Network Support Engineer
> >     Exetel Pty Ltd
> 
> 
>  Here is the route taken by an Exetel consumer subscriber using the AAPT
> network attempting to access the site.
> 
>       > $ traceroute www.melbournefreeuniversity.org
>       > traceroute to melbournefreeuniversity.org (198.136.54.104), 64 hops
> max, 40
>       > byte packets
>       >  1  XXXXXXXXXXXXX (192.168.1.254)  1 ms  1 ms  1 ms
>       >  2  XXX.XXX.96.58.static.exetel.com.au (58.96.XXX.XXX)  18 ms  19 ms  18
> ms
>       >  3  33.2.96.58.static.exetel.com.au (58.96.2.33)  19 ms  18 ms  19 ms
>       >  4  pe-5017370-mburninte01.gw.aapt.com.au (203.174.186.73)  24 ms  20
> ms
>       > 20 ms
>       >  5  te3-3.mburndist01.aapt.net.au (203.131.61.30) [MPLS: Label 190 Exp
> 1]
>       > 35 ms  35 ms  31 ms
>       >  6  te0-3-4-0.mburncore01.aapt.net.au (202.10.12.15) [MPLS: Label 17412
> Exp
>       >  7  bu2.sclarcore01.aapt.net.au (202.10.10.74) [MPLS: Label 16702 Exp 1]
>       > More labels  49 ms More labels  32 ms More labels  31 ms
>       >  8  te2-2.sclardist01.aapt.net.au (202.10.12.2) [MPLS: Label 895 Exp 1]  31
>       > ms  32 ms  33 ms
>       >  9  * po6.sclarbrdr01.aapt.net.au (202.10.14.3)  30 ms *
>       > 10  * * *
>       > 11  * * *
> 
>   Here is the route taken by a Telstra subscriber in Brisbane.
> 
>       >  $ traceroute to www.melbournefreeuniversity.org
> <http://www.melbournefreeuniversity.org> (198.136.54.104), 30 hops max,
> 60 byte packets
>       >  1  10.205.XX.XX (10.205.XX.XX)  8.936 ms  8.989 ms  8.977 ms
>       >  2  58.160.XX.XX (58.160.XX.XX)  9.349 ms  9.425 ms  9.482 ms
>       >  3  58.160.XX.XX (58.160.XX.XX)  9.705 ms  9.765 ms  9.753 ms
>       >  4  172.18.241.105 (172.18.241.105)  12.691 ms  12.817 ms  12.705 ms
>       >  5  bundle-ether10-woo10.brisbane.telstra.net (110.142.226.13)  15.426
> ms  15.482 ms  14.644 ms
>       >  6  bundle-ether3.woo-core1.brisbane.telstra.net (203.50.11.52)  17.872
> ms  12.953 ms  13.940 ms
>       >  7  bundle-ether11.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.11.70)  25.653
> ms  26.135 ms  26.054 ms
>       >  8  bundle-ether1.pad-gw1.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.25)  27.017 ms
> 27.078 ms  27.072 ms
>       >  9  gigabitethernet0-2.pad-service2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.70)
> 24.064 ms  24.129 ms  24.111 ms
>       > 10  * *
>       > 11   *
>       > 12   *
>       > 13   *
> 
> 



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