[AusNOG] AWS and MS SPLA

[Joshua D'Alton]

This is what a certain software company was trying to get around with
offering their own RDS service a few months ago, unfortunately M$ lawyers
bopped them on the head in the end.

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Power, Nicholas (Highway 1) <
nicholas.power at staff.highway1.com.au> wrote:

> David is correct. RDS is separately licensed. You need to purchase a RD
> licenses for each user when running in Terminal Services mode.
>
> Only customers with a Microsoft licensing with Software Assurance may
> import and export their licensing (license mobility). Otherwise you'll have
> to buy SPLA from the cloud provider. All providers (I.e. Ultraserve ,
> OrionVM, ZettaGrid, MacTel, CloudCentral) using the standard SPLA would all
> be bound this way. I can only assume AWS would work the same way.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of David Hughes
> Sent: Friday, 16 November 2012 7:14 AM
> To: Ryan Finnesey
> Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AWS and MS SPLA
>
>
> Sorry Ryan, that is not the case.  RDS is licensed separately from
> Windows.  You cannot move RDS CALs onto a 3rd party server using LM.  It
> may be possible to use your own SPLA to provision licenses onto EC2 but
> there's conflicting doco.  Microsoft marketing blurb says yes but the terms
> of the SPUR don't back that up.
>
>
> David
> ...
>
>
> On 15/11/2012, at 8:02 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
>
> > RDS is part of Windows and not a separate product.  Windows has LM with
> SA.  So has long as you have RDS CALs I think you will be fine.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of David Hughes
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:32 PM
> > To: Matthew Zobel
> > Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AWS and MS SPLA
> >
> >
> > AWS has a SPLA.  They offer the underlying OS (no doubt licensed under
> SPLA) as part of the product.  They do not however offer their clients
> access to other Microsoft licenses (such as RDS SALs) via their SPLA.  They
> state that you need to bring your own.  And I don't think LM covers that.
> >
> > So unless I have this wrong, potential clients could not bypass
> traditional Aussie VPS providers and use EC2 for replacing their multi-user
> RDS based office server or citrix farms etc.  (well, not legally).
> >
> >
> > David
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14/11/2012, at 1:57 PM, Matthew Zobel wrote:
> >
> >> Hosted services can only legally be licensed via SPLA. License Mobility
> requires a signed agreement between the client, service provider and
> approval from Microsoft, and SPLA.
> >>
> >> Having been through this with Microsoft in detail, to the best of my
> knowledge (IANAL) there would be no legal way to run windows on the
> platform without SPLA.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On 14/11/2012, at 2:04 PM, David Hughes <David at Hughes.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> One thing that I find interesting is that AWS does not appear to offer
> any SPLA licensing.  Their doco implies you need to bring your own licenses
> which implies using the provisions of Microsoft's License Mobility.  Unless
> I'm mistaken, license mobility does not allow the migration of anything
> other than certain server software licenses (exchange, sql, lync,
> sharepoint etc).
> >>>
> >>> So as far as I can see, it is illegal to run a windows based EC2
> server with more than the default 2 Remote Desktop Services user licenses.
>  Also, those 2 users cannot run MS Office or other MS desktop apps as the
> licensing is not covered under Licence Mobility.
> >>>
> >>> Am I missing something?  Anyone here have more MS licensing clue than
> me (which wouldn't be hard by the way).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>> ...
> >>>
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