[AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

[Luke Iggleden]

On 12/11/12 12:31 PM, Sean K. Finn wrote:
> I thought HE.Net was just one of the worlds largest peering networks, not an actual Internet network?
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> Someone, please, correct me if I'm wrong.
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> $2 per Megabit is current published list prices, if not less.
> (38 cents per megabit from WAIX, 50c per megabit at 1Gbit in VIC or QLD?)
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> Heck, 10GB is even less, sub 10c per megabit.
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> That being said, I don't see any rush to bastardise the market over here.
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> We're one tenth of the population of the US, and roughly geographically similar.
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> The same or similar Hurdles need to be faced here as anywhere else, but with much less revenue to drive it.
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> If we start cutting the arse out of our genuine transit prices for national haulage, why on earth would anyone want to be in this business, let alone be a quality provider in this business?
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> International backhaul prices on backhaul aside, a truly national IP provider has to pay to..
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> A) Lug the data all over Australia on either their own network, or a leased network
> B) Pickup up actual International transit, through protected paths
> C) Pickup National traffic either through connections with the GOF or at Peering exchanges.
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> We pay for the privilege of not having to do this yourself.
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> AND, as much as some participants on this list will argue with me, and have done..
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> 1) Peering, Multilateral, and Private, is NOT going away any time soon, as price isn't the only driver.
> 2) Price isn't going to be the driver, because in order for your Transit models to get to the price of peering, you're already out of a job and in a different industry so that you can feed yourself.
> 3) Because BEER that's Why.
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> The Status QUO is exactly TEN times the price of equivalent whatever as provided in the U.S, plus or minus 10% for population / political variance.
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> Try and change it if you will, but if it does change, you'll only be doing yourself and everyone around you a disservice.



With healthy competition in the international carriage space, faster 
optics and a proper functioning domestic market, why can't Australia see 
prices like $2/Mbit.

Businesses are always worried about the impact of supply price changes, 
I get it, not many will be able to make a fortune out of IP any more. 
Nobody makes $300/Mbit on transit any more anyway!
Lot's of what used to be Transit only providers have diversified their 
business lately, I wonder why?

What other services can Australia provide to the rest of the world if we 
had Similar or Equal pricing as USA/Asia?

We won't find out being 10x the price of their transit, jus sayin.