[AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

[Joshua D'Alton]

Yea but who did PIPE get the fiber through. Maybe I misheard but discussion
this year with a PIPE guy about some dark fiber leasing was something along
the lines of the network being whatever AAPT could do, plus wherever PIPE
had their own stuff as well. Anyway moot point, glass is glass is glass!
And mine is about to be filled with beer.

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at mmc.com.au> wrote:

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> On 08/11/2012, at 10:03 PM, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au> wrote:
>
> I was actually thinking backhaul more than internet. Unless things changed
> massively with internode it was my understanding that all those cute iiNet
> DSLAMs were being fed by AAPT fiber. Could be wrong.
>
>
> PIPE fibre mostly, originally some Telstra Ethernet.
>
> MMC
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Michael Kratz <MKratz at internode.com.au>wrote:
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>> On 09/11/2012, at 4:19 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
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>> > http://www.iinet.net.au/iinetwork/network-diagrams.html
>>
>> That doesn't show you how much is actually being used.
>>
>> That diagram also looks like it's pre-acquisition of Internode.
>>
>> No Internode interconnects shown there, which you can see on these:
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>> http://www.internode.on.net/pdf/network/internode-national-network.pdf
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>> http://www.internode.on.net/pdf/network/internode-international-network.pdf
>>
>> iiNet are making more use of this network these days.
>>
>>
>> > On 09/11/12 16:47, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 08/11/2012, at 9:40 PM, "Joshua D'Alton" <joshua at railgun.com.au>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> iiNet are still having to rely on AAPT for a lot of their
>> connectivity, so seems like it isn't as obvious a win.
>> >>
>> >> Are you sure about that?  Where can you see AS4802 behind AS2764?
>> >>
>> >> MMC
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at mmc.com.au>
>> wrote:
>> >>> On 08/11/2012, at 8:48 PM, Andrew Warburton <
>> andrew.warburton at aapt.com.au> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Is this the point where the conversation shifts from being a
>> productive discussion to a display of personal grudges?
>> >>>
>> >>> That's a bit overly sensitive.  But it's reality - the amount of
>> traffic to/from AAPT/VzB isn't that much anymore since both sold off your
>> eyeballs to iiNET.
>> >>>
>> >>> MMC
>> >>>
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