[AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic missing from PIPE-IX?

[Skeeve Stevens]

Noel,

What I'm trying to do is start some discussion about what is going on in
our industry.  So that we can share information with each other, and
hopefully make some better informed decisions.

I am calling people out on their bullshit so we can all know what is going
on.

I 100% agree with some of the comments that it is their commercial right to
do what they have done, and don't have an issue with that aspect.

What I do have an issue with is that it makes our lives as Service
Providers in this industry a little more complicated and expensive when
building networks, and frankly I'd like to understand the thinking of the
different parties as to what is going on.

I am in no way saying Pipe is 'bad' here, but I really would like to
understand their perspective as it says a lot to me about a company in the
way they conduct themselves in the community.

...Skeeve
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On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net> wrote:

> **
> On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 12:32 +1100, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>
>
>  It is like the days when AAPT through Pipe out of their DC's.... now
> Pipe, under the new ownership seems to be doing the same thing.  The
> company that rose to success largely because of who ran it and how they
> operated, no longer seems to consider what people think of them, which is
> sad, because it is (or was) a good network asset.
>
>
>
> So you are claiming now something the rest of us don't know, that is that
> PIPE instigated this, or are you (as I suspect) just wildly waving your
> arms pointing in a direction of your least liked characters?
> You're an intelligent man Skeeve, If you did know the truth, I doubt you
> would be foolish enough to even imply it in public, so lets stop with the
> blame game because unless one of the entities directly involved press
> release it, no-one will really know, and as it's nobody else's business I
> wouldn't hold your breath waiting for one [image: ;)]  and since I'm only
> a bush lawyer (like almost everyone else around here), I'd say one party
> wont without the agreement of the other fearing legal ramifications.
>
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