[AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

[Brad Evans]

On 8/11/2012 2:39 PM, Luke Iggleden wrote:
> On 8/11/12 2:29 PM, Scott Howard wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Luke Iggleden
>> <luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au <mailto:luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>     If I was G04, I would prefer to source my content from a 'free'
>>     domestic source than a paid Southern Cross + Transit etc.
>>
>>
>> When was the last time you saw a traceroute from an Australia provider
>> to Telstra or a Telstra customer go via an international link?
>
> If there was better financial incentives for businesses to have their 
> content hosted in Australia there would be less content coming from 
> overseas to those networks in Aus.
>
> Definitely a large amount of traffic, difficult to measure though.
>
> You could use facebook as a point of reference though. Perhaps they 
> would have cachers in aus if it didn't cost them MORE to deliver it 
> here than what it is to deliver (in my case) any2ix in the states.
>
> (disclaimer, I didn't look at if there was any in page cdn's before 
> writing this, just all of the hosts are over seas)
>
> host facebook.com
> facebook.com has address 66.220.152.16
> facebook.com has address 69.171.234.21
> facebook.com has address 69.171.237.16
> facebook.com has address 69.171.247.21
> facebook.com has address 66.220.149.88
> facebook.com has IPv6 address 2a03:2880:10:8f01:face:b00c::25
> facebook.com has IPv6 address 2a03:2880:10:cf01:face:b00c::
> facebook.com has IPv6 address 2a03:2880:2110:3f01:face:b00c::
> facebook.com has IPv6 address 2a03:2880:2110:9f01:face:b00c::
> facebook.com mail is handled by 10 smtpin.mx.facebook.com.
>
>
> 10  facebook.com.any2ix.coresite.com (206.223.143.161)  164.610 ms 
> 164.523 ms  164.510 ms
> 11  ae1.bb02.lax1.tfbnw.net (31.13.30.26)  208.544 ms  164.894 ms 
> 165.123 ms
> 12  ae13.bb02.atl1.tfbnw.net (31.13.28.111)  214.276 ms
>     ae12.bb01.atl1.tfbnw.net (31.13.28.109)  214.646 ms  214.086 ms
> 13  ae11.bb04.frc1.tfbnw.net (31.13.27.116)  220.042 ms
>     ae16.bb01.frc1.tfbnw.net (31.13.27.118)  221.955 ms
>     ae11.bb04.frc1.tfbnw.net (31.13.27.116)  224.315 ms
> 14  ae1.dr01.frc1.tfbnw.net (31.13.24.15)  220.382 ms
>     ae1.dr03.frc1.tfbnw.net (31.13.27.76)  219.547 ms
>     ae1.dr04.frc1.tfbnw.net (31.13.27.80)  221.861 ms
> 15  po1022.csw09b.frc1.tfbnw.net (31.13.26.237)  221.548 ms
>     po1022.csw09c.frc1.tfbnw.net (31.13.26.241)  218.266 ms 220.300 ms
>
All the heavy content (images,video,etc) from facebook is served from 
Akamai and mostly found on their AU nodes.

Tracing route to a1003.dspw41.akamai.net [125.56.205.107] over a maximum 
of 30 hops:
  11    26 ms    25 ms    25 ms  mas2-ge9-0.gw.optusnet.com.au 
[211.29.129.141]
  12    26 ms    25 ms    26 ms  hillc2-pos2.cm.optusnet.com.au 
[198.142.144.178]
  13    23 ms    25 ms    24 ms 
a125-56.205-107.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com [125.56.205.107]

Google also does a pretty good job of keeping it local in AU.

I could understand why US companies don't want to fork out on 
infrastructure to serve an island which is so far away with so few people.

-Brad