[AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

[Zone Networks - Joel Nath]

I don’t think any one expects to pay $0 for peering..

But if you compare the amount people are paying in transit to connect to the
GO4 with PIPE/Equinix IX it does seem like its "free" :)

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[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2012 2:01 PM
To: Luke Iggleden
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic
missingfrom PIPE-IX?






----- Original Message -----
> From: Luke Iggleden <luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au>
> To: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au>
> Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2012 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic
missingfrom PIPE-IX?
> 
> On 8/11/12 1:42 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
>>>  ________________________________
>>>  From: Luke Iggleden <luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au>
>>>  To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>>  Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2012 1:37 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic
> missingfrom PIPE-IX?
>>> 
>>>  On 8/11/12 1:21 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
>>>>  The fact that Telstra, Optus and the other two GoF members 
>>>> continue
> to
>>>>  operate as they do is disgusting - it's the result of a poorly
> conceived
>>>>  government-sponsored choice well over a decade ago.
>>>> 
>>>>  The opportunity to fix this is being ignored by Conroy, further  
>>>> displaying his complete ignorance of the marketplace.
>>>> 
>>>>  If there was ever a reason to ensure a neutral party provided IX  
>>>> services, Simon Hackett nailed it in his blog post  
>>>> http://blog.internode.on.net/2011/05/16/peering-policy-gaps-nbn/
>>>> 
>>>>  Chris
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>  I was waiting until the change of government before writing a letter.
>>> 
>>>  Perhaps we should all get together and lobby the new government to
> change the status quo.
>>> 
>>>  Speaking from SIS, 80% of our $transit content is sent to domestic 
>>> G04,
> why should we have to pay to deliver it to them? As long as we can 
> meet them at suitable aggregation points content be exchanged for free
domestically.
>>> 
>> 
>>  TANSTAAFL
>> 
> 
> http://www.verizonbusiness.com/terms/peering/
> 
> It does exist in the world.
> 

So the rack space, cable infrastructure, routers, electricity, 24x7 NOC etc.
that you use to connect to them, *if* you qualify as a peer, is all free?

Think about it. A company spends millions of dollars on equipment and
installs fibre across Australia, and is then going to let everybody use it
for gratis? That's a business plan to very rapidly go out of business. I
suspect the "free peering" myth has come from the days when residential ADSL
offered "free Pipe". The only reason it was "free" to customers was that the
ISP chose not to bill the customers for it.
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