[AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

[Chris Ricks]

On 08/11/12 13:43, Luke Iggleden wrote:
> On 8/11/12 1:42 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Luke Iggleden <luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au>
>>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>> Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2012 1:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic
>>> missingfrom PIPE-IX?
>>>
>>> On 8/11/12 1:21 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
>>>> The fact that Telstra, Optus and the other two GoF members continue to
>>>> operate as they do is disgusting - it's the result of a poorly
>>>> conceived
>>>> government-sponsored choice well over a decade ago.
>>>>
>>>> The opportunity to fix this is being ignored by Conroy, further
>>>> displaying his complete ignorance of the marketplace.
>>>>
>>>> If there was ever a reason to ensure a neutral party provided IX
>>>> services, Simon Hackett nailed it in his blog post
>>>> http://blog.internode.on.net/2011/05/16/peering-policy-gaps-nbn/
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was waiting until the change of government before writing a letter.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should all get together and lobby the new government to
>>> change the status quo.
>>>
>>> Speaking from SIS, 80% of our $transit content is sent to domestic
>>> G04, why should we have to pay to deliver it to them? As long as we
>>> can meet them at suitable aggregation points content be exchanged
>>> for free domestically.
>>>
>>
>> TANSTAAFL
>>
>
> http://www.verizonbusiness.com/terms/peering/
>
> It does exist in the world.
>
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It does exist, and quite successfully in some countries.

If you look at a country like Thailand, all ISPs/carriers are required
to peer . This is in a country where domestic traffic is significantly
greater in volume than international traffic.

If the GoF did present at peering points, their businesses wouldn't
suffer massively one would assume . They'd still sell plenty of transit
to those not buying capacity on cable systems, large corporates would
continue to buy from them due to their want for a single provider with
national reach (which is debatable in value) and so on.

Regards,

Chris