[AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic missing from PIPE-IX?

[Mark Smith]

Why are you surprised? I think it is more surprising that Pipe accommodated (in a variety of ways) Vocus for as long as they did, since they're clearly competitors. Pipe (or any commercial company) have no obligation to help out their competitors, unless it is mandated by the government, or there is a mutual benefit.

This is probably also a good thing for Vocus, as it will cause them to reduce their dependency on somebody who considers them to be a threat.

Pipe IXes may be good places to peer, but if they become less so, other parties will likely step in to take their place.




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>Subject: [AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic missing from PIPE-IX?
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>All,
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>Is anyone willing to openly talk about what is going on with Vocus and Pipe?
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>I know Pipe has evicted Vocus from most or all of its co-location facilities... 
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>I don't like seeing bullshit going on in this industry when we're all just trying to get a job done.  This is the sort of thing that eventually affects the players downstream and in the end no-one really benefits by big players having a fight.
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>Who is pissed at who for what is the question?
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>...Skeeve
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>On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Brad Evans <brad at delion.com.au> wrote:
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>Yeah I noticed their BGP session with PIPE IX went down this morning.
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>>Neighbor        V          AS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down  State/PfxRcd
>>218.100.2.45 4       4826  861066  916856        0    0    0 08:49:47 Active -Brad 
>>On 7/11/2012 7:35 PM, Sean K. Finn wrote:
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>>Has anyone else noticed that VOCUS traffic has disappeared from the PIPE-IXes?
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>>>Anyone know what’s going on?
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>>>-S
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