[AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!

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On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 16:40, James Troy <james.troy at intralot.com.au>wrote:

>  Isnt data (bandwidth) a form of property, you buy it, it is a commodity,
> therefore you own it, if someone uses it without your permission is that
> not stealing?****
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Saxton
> *Sent:* Friday, 23 March 2012 4:40 PM
> *To:* Paul Wallace; Jarrod Hassell; ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!****
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> That would relate to property wouldn’t it? ****
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> *From:* Paul Wallace [mailto:paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au]
> *Sent:* Friday, 23 March 2012 16:49
> *To:* Joseph Saxton; Jarrod Hassell; ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* RE: OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!****
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> It’s called trespass followed by theft!****
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> Old old common law****
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Saxton
> *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2012 3:32 PM
> *To:* Jarrod Hassell; ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!****
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> I don’t agree. If its an open network without any sort of authentication
> then you’re not breaking any rules. If you remember when telstra’s customer
> details was somehow available to the public internet due to poor security.
> There was no sort of login/authtication system that protects that
> information. Therefore the users who accessed that data shouldn’t be in
> trouble. Nothing is stopping them it’s just freely available on google. its
> telstra’s fault for not implementing correct security.****
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> So if a user access’s an open network that has no authentication or any
> sort of security then I don’t believe it is illegal. Its open, therefore
> people can access it. ****
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [
> mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *Jarrod Hassell
> *Sent:* Friday, 23 March 2012 16:11
> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!****
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> If they actually connect to the AP without permission, could that be
> classed as QPS hacking?****
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> Regardless of whether it's secure or not, unauthorised access to computer
> systems is illegal, yes?****
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [
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> *On Behalf Of *Sean K. Finn
> *Sent:* Friday, 23 March 2012 10:46 AM
> *To:* 'Ausnog at ausnog.net'
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!****
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> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/police-to-cruise-streets-for-unsecured-wifi-20120322-1vmof.html
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> “The project was *officially launched yesterday*<http://qpsmedia.govspace.gov.au/2012/03/22/war-driving-project-to-help-prevent-identity-theft/> to
> coincide with National Consumer Fraud Week.****
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> Officers in the Hi Tech Crime Investigation Unit on wardriving missions
> will drive the streets of Brisbane with a laptop computer, looking for
> unsecured Wi-Fi networks.****
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> Residents and businesses owners in targeted areas will then be mailed
> information about how to effectively secure their connection.****
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> Police will return to the area some time later to check whether residents
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> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/police-to-cruise-streets-for-unsecured-wifi-20120322-1vmof.html#ixzz1ptOph04u
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