[AusNOG] Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!

[Paul Wallace]

The Telecommunications Act 1997 is a Federal Statute.

The TIA is also a Federal Statute.

Neither therefore have common involvement with the QPS.

.. & good luck gaining the Federal Police's support unless the effect of the hack is of the type that might cause it to make it into the papers.

-Paul










From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 4:16 PM
To: Paul Wallace; James Troy; Joseph Saxton; Jarrod Hassell; ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!

Stop!  No don't imagine that.  Because that's irrelevant.  Don't give me a scenario that's hypothetical and does not in any way have reference to the TIA.  Read the TIA.  That's where it starts.  Don't also forget the Criminal Code and Telecommunications Act while you are there.

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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Paul Wallace
Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 4:03 PM
To: James Troy; Joseph Saxton; Jarrod Hassell; ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!

Imagine if you left your car unlocked or your home unlocked ...

... and I walked into your home, sat on your couch, starting watching your TV & then drank all the beer out of your fridge (megabytes or megabeers?)

Trespass & theft .. plain & simple! .. same's the case if you log into my wifi router, plug into my network, tether to my iPhone or in any other similar manner before stealing my MBs.

Gents let's not encourage any miscreants out there that their immoral activities might in any way be considered to be lawful or God forbid, reasonable

Paul Wallace






From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net]<mailto:[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net]> On Behalf Of James Troy
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:39 PM
To: Joseph Saxton; Jarrod Hassell; ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!

I disagree, in the instance of someone 'googling' the information about themselves as I believe it was done to lead to the discovery, is a very innocent task, however knowingly connecting to another unsecured wireless network in knowingly accessing resources that they know they should not be accessing.

It comes down to (IMO) the intent of the user.

Thanks

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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Joseph Saxton
Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 4:32 PM
To: Jarrod Hassell; ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!

I don't agree. If its an open network without any sort of authentication then you're not breaking any rules. If you remember when telstra's customer details was somehow available to the public internet due to poor security. There was no sort of login/authtication system that protects that information. Therefore the users who accessed that data shouldn't be in trouble. Nothing is stopping them it's just freely available on google. its telstra's fault for not implementing correct security.

So if a user access's an open network that has no authentication or any sort of security then I don't believe it is illegal. Its open, therefore people can access it.



From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Jarrod Hassell
Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 16:11
To: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!


If they actually connect to the AP without permission, could that be classed as QPS hacking?



Regardless of whether it's secure or not, unauthorised access to computer systems is illegal, yes?



Regards,



Jarrod Hassell | Product Development Manager

PACNET

Tel: +61.3.9674.7506

From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Sean K. Finn
Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 10:46 AM
To: 'Ausnog at ausnog.net'
Subject: [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/police-to-cruise-streets-for-unsecured-wifi-20120322-1vmof.html

"The project was officially launched yesterday<http://qpsmedia.govspace.gov.au/2012/03/22/war-driving-project-to-help-prevent-identity-theft/> to coincide with National Consumer Fraud Week.
Officers in the Hi Tech Crime Investigation Unit on wardriving missions will drive the streets of Brisbane with a laptop computer, looking for unsecured Wi-Fi networks.
Residents and businesses owners in targeted areas will then be mailed information about how to effectively secure their connection.
Police will return to the area some time later to check whether residents have taken heed of the warning.


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/police-to-cruise-streets-for-unsecured-wifi-20120322-1vmof.html#ixzz1ptOph04u"




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