[AusNOG] My Predictions for the ISP Industry

[Skeeve Stevens]

Wouldn't happen.

I've met the IPv6 guys from Google and even IPv6Day was a big thing for
them, because no one wants to cut off access to their customers - even if
it is 0.01%.

Google was comfortable with IPv6 Day because many others were involved and
it was publicised well, so most people would know why it had happened if
they were broken.

That said, they apparently were so happy with the results from IPv6 Day,
and everything learnt from it, that they've decided to go ahead this June
and turn it on permanently... which I think it awesome.

Perhaps in a few years (more like 10) we will be organising 'NO IPv4 Day'
where people turn off IPv4 to see how well people survive ;-)  That would
be SOOOO cool!

...Skeeve


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 21:33, Richard Stephens <r at js8.me> wrote:

> > Really? In which decade do you think that facebook.com, yahoo.com,
> > twitter.com and google.com will stop returning an A RR? And what is
> > their incentive for doing so?
>
> Not saying it'll happen, but maybe the threat of that is what's needed to
> get everyone to get their act together and actually support IPv6.  If
> google or Facebook said they were turning off v4 at the end of the year
> then you can bet we'd start to see some real momentum.
>
> -Richard
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 14/03/2012, at 2:52 AM, "Mark Delany" <g2x at juliet.emu.st> wrote:
>
> >> But, it will take most ISPs a year or two to fully integrate IPv6 into
> >> their networks, and those who haven't started doing it yet, might as
> well
> >> be planning to shut down their businesses because in the next year or
> two,
> >> it will be too late...
> >
> > Really? In which decade do you think that facebook.com, yahoo.com,
> > twitter.com and google.com will stop returning an A RR? And what is
> > their incentive for doing so?
> >
> > You need to explain why a business would voluntarily stop listening to
> > IPv4 traffic and why ISPs would stop carrying it.
> >
> > If you have no explanation for that, then what has any ISP got to lose
> > by just carrying IPv4? After all, it gets to everywhere and probably
> > will do so for a very long time into the future.
> >
> > The big problem is that turning off IPv4 has no value-add and turning
> > on IPv6 has no value-add, so no one cares to do either. Ergo,
> > IPv4-only systems will continue to work for the foreseeable
> > future. That means there is zero imperative to support IPv6.
> >
> > I'll be proved wrong when any major website discards their A RR web
> > site and only advertise an AAAA web-site. Any volunteers? Apnic? Arin?
> > ICANN? eintellego.net? Jut curious. If IPv6 is such a hit, when do you
> > guys plan to drop your IPv4 RR?
> >
> >
> > Mark.
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