[AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?

[Chris Hurley]

Mmmm I think if you move from the position of common carrier by inspecting/
tracking information "too" closely then aren't you stepping into the film
industries anti piracy position. If you are doing this then I can see their
lawyers lining up and saying your encouraging/aiding piracy.
Just a thought. 


On 27/06/12 1:17 PM, "Geoff Huston" <gih at apnic.net> wrote:

> Somehow we've managed to cross a dangerous line in the last few years. It used
> to be that carriers operated under the ethos, if not the regulatory framework,
> of a common carrier. These days it seems to be a pervasive attitude of "all
> your packets belong to us."
> 
> I think its encouraging that there is still a body of opinion that thinks its
> unethical, and even plain wrong, for a carrier to track its customers so
> intensely. Moving customer data across borders to other legislative regimes
> may be convenient but what protections accompany the data export? Does a US
> regulatory framework protect the rights to privacy for individuals who are to
> them simply "aliens"?
> 
> I think the sarcastic tone from the news.com story is ill-placed - the issues
> relating to a right to expect a common carriage service to be used by common
> customer within basic terms of integrity and privacy of use are important
> underlying issues here. Having a common carriage provider spy of your every
> move via a third party operating in a different regulatory and legal regime,
> and presumably then position this offshore third party in a unique position to
> monetize this collected information, is not exactly a healthy development as
> far as I can tell.
> 
> 
> On 27/06/2012, at 4:27 AM, Christopher Pollock wrote:
> 
>> The tone of that news.com.au article is unsettling, mostly because it can't
>> decide whether it's being sarcastic or not.  It seems to be both
>> simultaneously mocking everyone for being concerned about what appears to be
>> extremely concern-worthy behaviour but then goes on to then treat the same
>> concerns as legitimate when coming from a politician.
>> 
>> Expert opinions and observations coming from a group like this are going to
>> be far more accurate and well-founded than those of a politician, and I'm a
>> little insulted for both the list and MMC that News.com.au are treating this
>> like the behaviour was not worthy of being investigated; as if we're all
>> silly for going WHOA HANG ON A SEC WHAT when presented with some seriously
>> shifty-looking requests.
> 
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