[AusNOG] Death of the Unlimited Plan? [was] "Sewer broadband provider dumped" - Brisbane fibre plan scrapped

[Mark Smith]

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:41:02 +0000
Bevan Slattery <Bevan.Slattery at nextdc.com> wrote:

> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Smith
> > [mailto:nanog at 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2011 9:28 AM
> > To: Bevan Slattery
> > Cc: Matthew Moyle-Croft; ausnog at ausnog.net
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Death of the Unlimited Plan? [was] "Sewer
> > broadband provider dumped" - Brisbane fibre plan scrapped
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:14:24 +0000
> > Bevan Slattery <Bevan.Slattery at nextdc.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Seems like a few teclo's may have found my calculator...
> > >
> > > http://www.smartcompany.com.au/internet/20110323-nbn-wholesale-
> > pricing-model-threatens-unlimited-plans-telcos-warn.html
> > > http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Telcos-warn-of-
> > high-NBN-costs-report-pd20110322-F7QS2?OpenDocument&src=hp6
> > >
> > > "This morning telcos Optus and Internode complained the wholesale
> > pricing model proposed by the NBN is too costly and that it will see unlimited
> > download packages become obsolete."
> > >
> >
> > Is NBNco going to be charging both on bytes transferred and on the size
> > of the pipes in Mbps? My understanding has been that, similar to
> > most wholesale telecommunications billing, the billing model would be
> > based on the size of the pipes.
> >
> > Usually when I see size of pipe and bytes transferred billing models
> > conflated together and then used to justify a position, I
> > assume the person doesn't actually have an "industry" inside knowledge
> > of how wholesale telco billing commonly occurs. That may be likely in
> > this case as the "bytes transferred" quote is from "Ovum research
> > director David Kennedy".
> 
> Yes they are (by proxy).  Tail fee + CVC fee (AGVC type thing).
> 

I don't think that is byte charging. Byte charging occurs
when e.g. they give you 12Mbps and then tell you that you can't fill it
24 x 7 with bytes (in case you want to), and that they'll also be
counting and billing for the bytes transferred. Are NBNco doing that?
i.e. is their monthly bill going to be something like

X * (A|B|C) Mbps tails
Y * (G|H|I) Gbps CVCs
ZZZ * GB transferred (either CVC or sum of tails)



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