[AusNOG] NBN must avoid becoming 'failed state'

Andrew Fort afort at choqolat.org
Sat Sep 18 20:36:36 EST 2010


On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Mark Newton <newton at internode.com.au> wrote:
>
> Sounds like the same stuff we were all talking about when ADSL started
> taking over from dialup.
>
> Didn't really happen.  Speaking holistically, it's hard to argue that the
> state of the security art is any worse now than it's ever been.
>
> Now that broadband market penetration is nearing market saturation, the
> NBN will be just as "always on" and only slightly more ubiquitous than
> DSL.  All it'll change is the raw available bandwidth, and I'd argue that
> the availability of bandwidth ceased to be a significant issue in the
> security world on the day that malcontents worked out they could saturate
> anyone's bandwidth supply with a sufficiently large botnet.

Of the "mega" and "hyper" connected communities Roland mentioned, I
read from the graphs that South Korea wins for being a DDoS/bot
source.  Reasons were both social and technical;  my understanding of
the bandwidths available to end users in those communities correlated
with the DDoS/bot source data, if I was paying adequate attention.

To me, this tends to indicate that we'll become a far more effective
place to house bots that can make money for their herders when we have
more average end-user bandwidth, which is likely to have flow-on
effects on international circuits, since my guess is that there's
fewer targets here (due to population and that we're not the US or
Europe).

-a



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