[AusNOG] LNS Thoughts

[Skeeve Stevens]

Awesome information Julien... just the sort of info I was looking for.


...Skeeve

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julien Goodwin [mailto:jgoodwin at studio442.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:20 AM
> To: Skeeve Stevens
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net List
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] LNS Thoughts
> 
> On 08/09/10 00:46, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> > The Juniper MX80 is coming with LNS functionality, but isn’t here
> yet...
> > but looks nice for the bang for buck when it is an option.  Anyone
> else
> > have thoughts?
> 
> So, the MX80. It *is* shipping, and has more throughput capacity then
> the vast majority of ISP's in this country need, even if it was the
> only
> LNS in use.
> 
> It's a real hardware router, and once you know the over-subscription
> points you're unlikely to ever max it out in raw routing (including
> VPN's and MPLS)
> 
> Now for the downsides:
> * Several months back (prior to MX80 ship) I was told ETA for L2TP on
> "Trio" cards (which includes the whole MX80) was "early next year"
> * The control plane is an embedded PPC, not the standard Intel unit
> Juniper normally use. It's likely to be a little anaemic when stressed,
> and would probably be the limiting factor in scaling.
> * Limited hardware redundancy inside the unit (see MX240 if you want
> that)
> * Compared to the Cisco 7200 the interface cards are *EXPENSIVE*,
> although competitive in price to their Cisco equivalents
> 
> As for pricing, once configured & licenced, I'd expect to see it for
> about $50k (Juniper's price lists regularly leak, ask your dealer for
> actual pricing)
> 
> It would be neat if Juniper released a 1ru MX40 with 2x 10Gbe and one
> line card slot, but even if they did I doubt it would be any cheaper in
> practice.
> 
> As to the ERX line, for my point of view they are a line with no
> future,
> but Juniper did confirm they have an actual feature roadmap and plans
> for support for many years. They have thousands of them out in *very*
> large customers who would stop buying much more expensive TX Matrixes
> if
> burnt. I wouldn't buy them, but then I wouldn't buy an SSG (NetScreen,
> now replaced by JunOS running SRX) either.
> 
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> Julien Goodwin
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