[AusNOG] AAB Statement

[roland at chan.id.au]

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-----Original Message-----
From: roland at chan.id.au
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:33:08 
To: Bevan Slattery<Bevan.Slattery at staff.pipenetworks.com>; <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>; Andrew Oskam<percy at th3interw3bs.net>
Reply-To: roland at chan.id.au
Cc: <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAB Statement

Way to equivocate. So you're saying that, as industry experts, you want X, but maybe Y is right if perhaps our assumptions are wrong. On that basis, please invest in X. Maybe, unless you're wrong. Outside chance. Probably.

So, as a policy position, what do you actually commit to? What is on offer if you are wrong? Try as we might, you aren't going to lose anything if your postulation is wrong.

As a titan of industry: do you give a toss about the short/medium term? Last I checked the titans played for keeps.

I have used the words "wrong" and "policy". Please take that into account.

:)


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-----Original Message-----
From: "Bevan Slattery" <Bevan.Slattery at staff.pipenetworks.com>
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:54:23 
To: Bevan Slattery<Bevan.Slattery at staff.pipenetworks.com>; Andrew Oskam<percy at th3interw3bs.net>
Cc: <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAB Statement

I'm not saying we may not be wrong though! :)

[b]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery
> Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2010 4:53 PM
> To: Andrew Oskam
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAB Statement
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> > Another thing that also has me confused, is how can we honestly say "We
> don't feel/Australia does not need 1Gbps".
> > Now, I will be honest and forth coming to say that my experience in the
> industry is far less than some of you titans here - but I don't see how we can
> be bold enough to make such a statement.
> 
> We stated:
> 
> "For the short to medium term we see, globally, no demonstrated mass
> requirement for the “up to 1Gbps” speeds to homes and SOHO. Instead, we
> see the greatest priority is giving broadband to those who don‟t have any,
> not faster broadband to those that have."
> 
> If I were to prioritise of 'need' I would say those that are without any choice
> NEED a broadband choice.  It's a 'bold' statement in so far as there is some
> future gazing here, but I think people confuse need/desire and want/not
> prepared to pay.
> 
> Remember we are talking short/medium term and used the word 'need'.
> 
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