[AusNOG] iPhone serial port

Fri Nov 5 14:07:51 EST 2010

I saw that one announced this week, it's a Redpark design commissioned
by Southern Stars. I've been hearing 'it will be here next month' since
February.  The problem with 'apple approved, don't need to jailbreak'
serial ports is that they have to have applications that use them to go
with them.  It's part of the rules for making Apple Approved hardware
accessories.

Without a terminal program, which you only get from jailbreaking, I
guess I don't see the point.  Unless someone wants to write an app-store
approved terminal application?  Any iDevs on AusNOG interested?

The SkyWire looks perfect for that application, although it kind of
defeats the purpose of it when you have a massive cable hanging off it,
then needing to put a regular console cable on the end.  For me anyway,
the point of the iPhone serial port was to have a tiny adapter I could
leave in my bag and plug in any old cat5 cable.

But more power to 'em!  Hopefully we'll see some more serial accessories
in the coming months if this one makes it to market.

--
Chris Pollock
Technical & Install Manager
PIPE Networks Pty Ltd

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From: Dmitri Kalintsev [mailto:dek735 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:51 PM
To: Chris Pollock
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] iPhone serial port

Here's one more, this time it's an "Apple-approved" accessory, and

"Unlike other "iPhone serial cables" available on the internet, you
don't have to jailbreak your iPhone to use it."

Linky:

http://www.southernstars.com/products/skywire/index.html

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Chris Pollock
<Chris.Pollock at staff.pipenetworks.com> wrote:

> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/10/28/1613227/The-iPhone
-Serial-Port-Hack
<http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/10/28/1613227/The-iPhone%0A-Seria
l-Port-Hack> 

> Congratulations - you made Slashdot!

Oh look at that!  I saw it on Zdnet and Computerworld AU yesterday, I
was pretty pleased at the interest.  I'm going to make a few more by
hand, but hopefully I should have the some manufactured units to sell in
a month.

> I see you're using the Ikea rack mount system. :)

Haha yes, I love my Lack!  Super convenient way to keep a few small
rackmount devices in your house.  I think you had the right idea about
the port on the device by the way. Despite nearly everyone requesting
DB9, I think the right answer is pre-rolled RJ45 as you -always- have
access to an Ethernet cable.

--
Chris Pollock
Technical & Install Manager
PIPE Networks Pty Ltd

PPC-1 is now live!
6900 km, 20 Months, 2.56 Tbps, 12.5 kilovolts, $200 Million and 100%
Australian Owned.
http://www.pipeinternational.com

Mobile :  +61 4 1074 7765
Phone :  +61 7 3233 9813
Fax     :  +61 7 3233 9885
Web    :  www.pipenetworks.com

> -----Original Message-----

> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net

> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Brad Gould
> Sent: Friday, 29 October 2010 12:47 PM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] iPhone serial port
>

> On 27/10/2010 12:20, Chris Pollock wrote:
> > The USB Sync cable won't do - there are only a few pins
> connected.  You need a fully populated dock connector (or at
> least, the correct partially populated one which aren't for
> sale generally).
> >
> > MAX-232 chips will do fine if you want to do it ghetto, you
> just need the some capacitors to make them go.
> >
> > The apple side of things is TTL, yes.
> > --
> > Chris Pollock
> > Technical&  Install Manager
> > PIPE Networks Pty Ltd
> >
> >
> > PPC-1 is now live!
> > 6900 km, 20 Months, 2.56 Tbps, 12.5 kilovolts, $200 Million
> and 100% Australian Owned.
> > http://www.pipeinternational.com
> >
> > Mobile :  +61 4 1074 7765
> > Phone :  +61 7 3233 9813
> > Fax     :  +61 7 3233 9885
> > Web    :  www.pipenetworks.com
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Sean K. Finn [mailto:sean.finn at ozservers.com.au]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:43 AM
> >> To: Chris Pollock; 'Andrew Fort'
> >> Cc: 'ausnog at ausnog.net'
> >> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] iPhone serial port
> >>
> >> I'm looking right at a munched up Rollover cable and a spare USB
> >> synch cable and thinking that this afternoon I might try
> to merge the
> >> two.. :)
> >>
> >> The RS232 ->  TTL converter looks like the hard bit, but I
> >> *DO* have a whole bunch of MAX-232 Chips sitting here that
> might do
> >> the job.. (Jaycar, 5 bucks).
> >>
> >> Is the Apple side of things TTL ?
> >> (not time to live, TTL basically means 5 volt Microchip
> >> communications standard thing for the un initiated that does NOT
> >> resemble serial).
> >>
> >> S.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Chris Pollock [mailto:Chris.Pollock at staff.pipenetworks.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:40 AM
> >> To: Sean K. Finn; Andrew Fort
> >> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> >> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] iPhone serial port
> >>
> >> Actually they're not - the article is not entirely correct.
> >> They have finished the design, but Apple won't give their approval
> >> for them.  I actually looked at importing and distributing these
> >> myself earlier in the year.  The difference there is that
> they have
> >> the Apple authentication chip in them to let them enable the UART,
> >> and will have a proper app in the app store to do it.
> >>
> >> My version requires jailbreaking to get hardware access and the
> >> appropriate OpenSSH/Minicom install.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chris Pollock
> >> Technical&  Install Manager
> >> PIPE Networks Pty Ltd
> >>
> >>
> >> PPC-1 is now live!
> >> 6900 km, 20 Months, 2.56 Tbps, 12.5 kilovolts, $200
> Million and 100%
> >> Australian Owned.
> >> http://www.pipeinternational.com
> >>
> >> Mobile :  +61 4 1074 7765
> >> Phone :  +61 7 3233 9813
> >> Fax     :  +61 7 3233 9885
> >> Web    :  www.pipenetworks.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Sean K. Finn [mailto:sean.finn at ozservers.com.au]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:36 AM
> >>> To: 'Andrew Fort'; Chris Pollock
> >>> Cc: 'ausnog at ausnog.net'
> >>> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] iPhone serial port
> >>>
> >>> These are available commercially btw.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.slashgear.com/redpark-serial-cable-for-iphoneipod-t
> >> ouchipad-outed-1173756/
> >>>
> >>> Or you could just munch up a USB Synch cable.
> >>>
> >>> S
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> >>> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Fort
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:23 AM
> >>> To: Chris Pollock
> >>> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] iPhone serial port
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Chris Pollock
> >>> <Chris.Pollock at staff.pipenetworks.com>  wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> I just finished something I thought some of you might be
> >> interested
> >>>> in; a usable serial port for an iPhone/iPad/iTouch.  All
> >>> iDevices have
> >>>> a serial port built into the dock connector, but it doesn't do
> >>>> anything useful out of the box.  All you need is a dock
> >>> connector, a
> >>>> 470kOhm resistor, some wire, a soldering iron, a console
> >>> cable and an RS232 ->  TTL converter.
> >>>
> >>> Nice work!  I wonder if you'd get that through an airport
> security
> >>> checkpoint for a remote job, though? ;-)
> >>>
> >>> -a
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