[AusNOG] NBNCo releases its response to industry consultation

[Richard Pruss]

In the same market, you may find analyst presentation by KPN very interesting
has some interesting side by sides on FttH vs FttC, ARUP, service uptake etc.

http://www.kpn.com/corporate/en/ir/Update-Fibre.htm

Slide 27 bears out your sense that Fiber is just targeted to the urban centres, with
mobile providing national coverage.

On 25/03/2010, at 3:17 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:

> It's worth noting a few things about the Amsterdam experience:  
> 
> Their AVERAGE distance per service was 3 metres - 120km for 40k services.  It's a fairly small geography they're building into which has a lot of MDUs.  Guarantee the distance in Oz is a lot longer.
>  
> It'd be nice to have a core or pair per house hold.  But not at any expense.
> 
> MMC
> 
> On 25/03/2010, at 3:08 PM, Bryn Loftus wrote:
> 
>> This article (while very mainstream) has some interesting point on PON vs direct fibre- and some costs.
>> 
>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/how-amsterdam-was-wired-for-open-access-fiber.ars
>> 
>> bryn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 25/03/2010, at 3:23 PM, lists wrote:
>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dasmo" <dasmo at dasmo.net>
>>> To: <ausnog at ausnog.net>
>>> 
>>>> Using PON is a bit short sighted.
>>> 
>>> Why is that?
>>> 
>>> It is power efficient ( less green house emmissions for the true believers)
>>> It can deliver 1Gb or more symentrical connections
>>> It can do L2 or L3
>>> 
>>> I often see the argument against PON but I rarely if ever see reasons why, I 
>>> would be interested to see the reasons why
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> If you're going to spend the money to roll out a nationwide network, you 
>>>> might as well only do it once.
>>> 
>>> The cost of  point to point would make an already dubious business plan even 
>>> less affordable.
>>> 
>>> The biggest cost is not so much the cable as the duct access.  In brownfield 
>>> deployments that can be very high.  $70 per meter is not out of the 
>>> question.   Duct access at $6 to $8 per year can add up to.   If you put it 
>>> on power poles then fine, but expect long delays when trucks trees and wind 
>>> bring it down as will happen.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> regards
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
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