[AusNOG] [OT] Google criticises Australia on internet filter plan

Brett O'Hara brett at fj.com.au
Wed Mar 24 19:20:52 EST 2010


So did Conroy just say on the 7pm Report, National TV, that we will never
block Google or Youtube ("High volume sites")?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Andreux Fort <afort at choqolat.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:37 PM, John Edwards <john at netniche.com.au>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 24/03/2010, at 9:10 AM, Andreux Fort wrote:
> >
> >>   Rumor says
> >> it's very hard to actually get your money out of China once you've
> >> made it,
> >
> > Mcdonalds had an interesting approach in 1990's Russia where their
> profits were used to purchase real estate that was exclusively rented to
> visiting foreigners paying in US dollars. I can only imagine that this is
> even easier in an Internet-banking connected world, and certainly not the
> real problem for the likes of Google.
>
> Agreed in that I don't think it's difficult for the likes of Google to
> get their money out.  I was mostly referring to the fact that the
> engineering for China is surely complicated, and the network engineers
> are stoked they don't have to deal with phantom link disappearance and
> the other fun games they probably had to.  I'm sure it'd annoy you if
> you have the gov't coming into your colo and doing dodgy stuff with
> your international circuits. Oh, my mistake; I'm sure it will annoy
> ;-).
>
> I must admit I'm not surprised or impressed that they got OUT of China
> (would have been impressed had they said "No thanks" in 2006 - it's
> not like they didn't know they would have this ideological difference
> then).  But I guess you have to make mistakes to be sure that they
> were in-fact mistakes, and given how American it is to not admit one's
> mistakes, the PR spin is what it is.  I just don't buy that the reason
> they got out is "all ideological differences".  Perhaps Sergey Brin
> finally got his way, and good for him, from what I can tell, he's the
> only normal-ish one of the three of them.
>
> > John Edwards
>
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