[AusNOG] Labor to force people to connect to broadband

[Brad Gould]

For better or worse, the government has decided to do something - and in 
a big way - like building a hyperspace bypass.

Accepting that as fact - whats the best way to do it?

Multiple truck rolls for individual buildings?  Low takeup and more 
inefficiency on a project that has very questionable economics in the 
first place?

Given that the government is in charge of NBN, dont you expect them to 
*make* it work?



Brad





On 30/07/2010 15:18, Curtis Bayne wrote:
> Ok, here comes my $0.022c worth (gst inc.)
>
> This "opt-out" model irks me. Deeply.
>
> I've spent the better part of a year coercing building management of
> various buildings in my local area to let me put microwave gear on their
> roof, run cabling to their tenant's demarcation points and generally do
> good things for connectivity in an area that's been neglected by every
> single other provider except Optus. How come NBNCo gets a free pass for
> the "subscriber in building" requirement under the Telco Act?
>
> It seems that having a seemingly bottomless pit of taxpayer money isn't
> enough to build a viable business case for NBNCo, they also need to be
> above the law too...
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net on behalf of Matthew Moyle-Croft
> Sent: Fri 7/30/2010 3:34 PM
> To: Sean K. Finn
> Cc: ausnog
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Labor to force people to connect to broadband
>
> /me rolls eyes and hands Sean some Nanny-state filtering candy
>
> MMC
>
> On 30/07/2010, at 2:58 PM, Sean K. Finn wrote:
>
>  > I'd just like to know who's responsibility it is to provide battery
> backup for PSTN services now?
>  >
>  > UPS's in the home? How will most ppl ring the power utility if their
> power goes out unexpectedly? (Yeah I know, mobile phones and provide
> your own UPS's).
>  >
>  > Still..
>  >
>  > Loss of functionality here.
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Moyle-Croft
>  > Sent: Friday, 30 July 2010 2:05 PM
>  > To: Kai
>  > Cc: ausnog
>  > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Labor to force people to connect to broadband
>  >
>  > Kai,
>  > Tasmania is being built by Opticomm (no secret, if you've been
> following things). Aurora is providing backhaul (again, no secret). It
> was done in a rush AFAIK but it's working and the fact that customers
> are already being connected it's quite impressive what they've done.
>  >
>  > Given that the Govt. has done a deal with Telstra to move customers
> across, then opt-out seems reasonable as Telstra, I assume, will be
> moving all their customers across anyway. If someone does opt-out then
> it's not clear what their options would be if Telstra are removing the Cu.
>  >
>  > MMC
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On 30/07/2010, at 1:27 PM, Kai wrote:
>  >
>  >> Labor to force people to connect to broadband
>  >>
> smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/labor-to-force-people-to-connect-to-broadband-20100730-10yi4.html
>  >>
>  >> So, if I have this correct, Conroy says:
>  >>
>  >> "The cynics, the doomsayers, claimed we were only going to get 10
> per cent or 15 per cent [on the network]," he told ABC Radio.
>  >>
>  >> "We've already got 50 per cent signed up."
>  >>
>  >> That's 50% from three towns in Tasmania, that's like saying "since
> 50% of Leonora, Wiluna and Laverton in WA have signed up that this is
> gunna be awesome". Considering the infrastructure, or lack thereof, in
> those towns, why wouldn't they say "yes"?!
>  >>
>  >> If it was actual figures after the whole country was rolled out and
> he has 50%, that might be something to get excited about but even then,
> it's opt-out AND it's only 50%, not really a good update percentage
> considering how awesome it's supposed to be and what it will cost.
>  >>
>  >> Tasmania's getting connected, that's great, but, who's providing
> backhaul and was that put to tender? or how was that decided? someone
> wanna put me through to Conroy's office so I can talk to him
> constructively? or at least try to? thanks
>  >
>
>
>
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