[AusNOG] Junior techs

[Brett O'Hara]

Hear, Hear.  Participation is not the point this list, neither is beery
catchups, personal dsl issues, flame wars or irrelevent n00bs.  Regardless
of participation, this list is for network operators and network operation
issues.  The main list is a inside line on real issues, and the off-list is
a personal networking back channel to solving day to day issues - even the
journos and managers who monitor this list appreciate that and don't
interfere.  There are plenty of other environments to discuss these other
items, and if you'd like to make  social forum, go make one, and invite us
all, once.  In the meantime, unless its operations related, hold your finger
over the send button and think.

Regards,
   Brett

* I realise by participating in this argument, I only perpetuate it - oh the
irony, but really, stop it.

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Bruce Morgan <Bruce.Morgan at aarnet.edu.au>wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> I don't think membership of the list is dependent on contributing to the
> noise on this list. Most of my responses are actually offlist.
>
> I guess if you want to turn network operators away from this list then you
> are successful.
>
> Regards
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On 5/07/10 12:59 PM, "Andrew Cox" <andrew at accessplus.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Andrew:
> > I agree, although I don't see the harm in having the occasional
> > off-topic discussions here, if it's such a big problem then we might as
> > well move things elsewhere.
> > It's hardly a large volume of emails to sort through currently thou, in
> > comparison have a look at the nanog mailing list.
> >
> > Bruce:
> > Given (based on archives) this is your 4th on list post in the last 4
> > years why does it even bother you?
> > You're complaining about lack of constructive contribution yet haven't
> > provided any notable 'signal' (professional or opinion) yourself.
> >
> > - Andrew
> >
> > On 5/07/2010 1:51 PM, Andrew Oskam wrote:
> >> I still in support of a forum medium as the community portal and
> >> having the ausnog mail list remain specifically for Network Operation
> >> matters.
> >>
> >> The forums are good place to reference something you say donkeys
> >> months back and wanted to reference it without having to return
> >> folders upon folders of emails and then trying to decipher and sort
> >> the insignificant emails.
> >>
> >> Forums also offer some kind of moderation - should it be needed.
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrew Oskam
> >>
> >> E percy at th3interw3bs.net
> >>
> >>
> >> NOTICE:
> >>
> >> These comments are my own personal opinions only and do not
> >> necessarily reflect the positions or opinions of my employer or their
> >> affiliates. All comments are based upon my current knowledge and my
> >> own personal experiences. You should conduct independent tests to
> >> verify the validity of any statements made in this email before basing
> >> any decisions upon those statements.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/07/10 1:43 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> >>> It has been suggested we have a ausnog-chat list, but apparently some
> are
> >>> against it.... I'd prefer that.
> >>>
> >>> Or leave this as the chat list and setup 'ausnog-ops'  list?
> >>>
> >>> ...Skeeve
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
> >>> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> >>> skeeve at eintellego.net  /www.eintellego.net
> >>> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
> >>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 /skype://skeeve
> >>> www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve  ; facebook.com/eintellego
> >>> --
> >>> NOC, NOC, who's there?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<From%3Aausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> [mailto:
> ausnog-
> >>>> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Morgan
> >>>> Sent: Monday, 5 July 2010 1:11 PM
> >>>> To: Peter Childs; Karl Kloppenborg
> >>>> Cc:ausnog at ausnog.net <Cc%3Aausnog at ausnog.net>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Junior techs
> >>>>
> >>>> Is AUSNOG relevent for network operators anymore? The SN ratio is
> >>>> extremely
> >>>> low.
> >>>>
> >>>> Facebook would be more appropriate for current posts. Why not form a
> >>>> group
> >>>> and post there and leave AUSNOG for relevant Network Operational
> >>>> matters?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>>
> >>>> Bruce
> >>>>
> >
>
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