[AusNOG] [apnic-talk] RIPE NCC Position On The ITU IPv6 Group

Sat Feb 27 18:33:00 EST 2010

I don't find any reason or need by ITU for any standardization, country wise
allocation or any other reason someone may think of. A structure already
exists through the respective RIR's. Where is the need for duplication?
Seems to be a muscle flexing or empire building ex!!

Col R S Perhar

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Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [AusNOG] RIPE NCC Position On The ITU IPv6 Group

As usual Mark, your contributions are unbiased and well thought out.

...Skeeve

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Smith
> [mailto:nanog at 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org]
> Sent: Saturday, 27 February 2010 1:24 PM
> To: Skeeve Stevens
> Cc: apnic-talk at apnic.net; ausnog at ausnog.net; nznog; pacnog at pacnog.org
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] RIPE NCC Position On The ITU IPv6 Group
> 
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:08:19 +1100
> Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net> wrote:
> 
> > This is an FYI for those interested.  Btw, RIPE NCC is the European
> version of APNIC for those that don't know.
> >
> > The ITU are looking at bypassing the RIR's (Ripe, APNIC, ARIN,
> AFRINIC, LACNIC) and becoming their own numbering authority.  Clearly
> this is not the desired option as the structure already exists for
> exactly what they want to do, but rather than regionally, they want to
> do it per country.... for who knows what reason.
> >
> 
> Because they're bellheads.
> 
> > --
> > Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
> > eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> > skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
> > Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
> > Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
> > www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
> > --
> > NOC, NOC, who's there?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: admin-bounces at tuenti.com [mailto:admin-bounces at tuenti.com] On
> Behalf Of Axel Pawlik
> > Sent: Friday, 26 February 2010 3:20 AM
> > To: ncc-announce at ripe.net
> > Subject: [Admin] [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Position
> On The ITU IPv6 Group
> >
> > Dear Colleagues,
> >
> > As you may be aware, the International Telecommunication Union's
> (ITU)
> > Telecommunication Standardization Bureau (TSB) has convened an ITU
> > IPv6 Group, the first meeting of which will be held on 15-16 March
> > 2010 in Geneva, Switzerland. Information on this group is available
> at:
> > http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/othergroups/ipv6/
> >
> > Among the group's Terms of Reference are the following:
> >
> >    * To draft a global policy proposal for the reservation of a large
> > IPv6 block, taking into consideration the future needs of developing
> > countries (as outlined in paragraph 23 of ITU document C09/29).
> >
> >    * To further study possible methodologies and related
> > implementation mechanisms to ensure 'equitable access' to IPv6
> > resource by countries.
> >
> >    * To further study the possibility for ITU to become another
> > Internet Registry, and propose policies and procedures for ITU to
> > manage a reserved IPv6 block.
> >
> >    * To further study the feasibility and advisability of
> implementing
> > the CIR [Country Internet Registry] model for those countries who
> > would request national allocations.
> >
> > The ITU IPv6 Group is open to ITU Member States and Sector Members of
> > ITU-T and ITU-D. RIRs that are not members have also been extended an
> > invitation to participate.
> >
> > IPv6 address policy is clearly of critical importance to the RIPE NCC
> > membership, and the unsympathetic implementation of any of the Terms
> > of Reference stated above would have serious impact on the global IP
> > address distribution environment.
> >
> > Members of RIPE NCC staff will be participating in this meeting of
> the
> > ITU IPv6 Group to represent the interests of our members and
> community.
> >
> > The position of the RIPE NCC is based on support for smooth and
> > reliable working of the Internet globally, and for the bottom-up,
> open
> > policy development process that allows for all stakeholders,
> including
> > business, government and the technical community, to participate.
> >
> > Some of the issues addressed in the Terms of Reference listed above
> > are a cause for concern because they could directly affect the RIPE
> > NCC operations as a Regional Internet Registry (RIR). Therefore, the
> > RIPE NCC position on the Terms of Reference is as follows:
> >
> > * The needs of developing economies in IP address policy are
> > important. Network operators in these economies have fair and equal
> > access to IPv6 resources from the Regional Internet Registries
> (RIRs),
> > and to the Policy Development Processes in their RIR and globally.
> > Each of the RIRs has been allocated an equal block of IPv6 to
> > distribute to networks in their region. (eg. AfriNIC has been
> > allocated the same sized block of IPv6 as the RIPE NCC).
> >
> > * IPv6 allocations made by RIRs to date amount to the equivalent of
> > 500 times the size of the entire IPv4 address pool, allocated to
> > networks in over 150 economies.
> >
> > * If a significant sector in the Internet community feels that the
> > "reservation of a large IPv6 block" for "the future needs of
> > developing countries" is warranted, the open, bottom-up Policy
> > Development Processes (PDPs) of the RIRs provide an appropriate forum
> > in which to argue that case and develop such a policy.
> >
> > * The RIRs, as the recognised stewards of Internet Number Resources,
> > are working, individually, jointly, and with invited experts, to
> > engage the ITU membership. We have closely followed discussions in
> the
> > ITU to date. The RIPE NCC does not believe that there are any
> problems
> > that would be solved by the shift to a country-based allocation
> system
> > or the installation of the ITU as an Internet Registry.
> >
> > The purpose of this email is to ensure that all RIPE NCC members are
> > informed of the RIPE NCC's participation in this ITU IPv6 Group, and
> > our position. If you have any comments or questions regarding this
> > information, please send an email to <ncc at ripe.net>.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Axel Pawlik
> > Managing Director
> > RIPE NCC
> >
> >
> >
> >
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