[AusNOG] Appropriate use of this list

[Adrian Chadd]

Someone more sBGP-clued should chime in. I'm simply redirecting the discussion!



Adiran


On Mon, Dec 13, 2010, Sean K. Finn wrote:
> Could that possibly stop it?
> 
> If the end-customer were to sign their Prefixes, and announce signed prefixes into providers that they still wanted connectivity to, can they re-sign / change the signature on their 'root' prefixes so that anyone listening to sBGP would drop signed-but-stale prefixes?
> 
> Can it work this way, or can the signatures simply be forged, too?
> 
> AND,
> 
> At a technical level, Does PacNet currently listen for sBGP, or their upstreams?
> 
> How about PIPE?
> 
> 
> S. (sBGP Noob).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
> Sent: Monday, 13 December 2010 12:53 PM
> To: David Hughes
> Cc: Skeeve Stevens; ausnog (ausnog at ausnog.net)
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Appropriate use of this list
> 
> So, to bring things into a technical "smell", how about that whole signed BGP announcement
> proposal? :-)
> 
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010, David Hughes wrote:
> > 
> > Skeeve,
> > 
> > Thanks.   Much appreciated.  The technical matters arising from this situation are certainly within the charter of the list.  Details about the dispute, the parties involved in the dispute, the employment records of individuals etc are clearly out of charter, and the discussion would be a lot more valuable without them.
> > 
> > 
> > David
> > ...
> > 
> > 
> > On 13/12/2010, at 12:30 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey Dave,
> > > 
> > > I agree that this stems from a commercial issue, but it has resulted in a pretty serious technical situation which I believe is of interest to all providers, not just those on this list.
> > > 
> > > Sorry that there has been some drift from the key technical aspects, some of which I am responsible for - but well, that is Ausnog isn't it ;-)
> > > 
> > > I will do my best to keep it on target.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ...Skeeve
> > > 
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> > > 
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> > >> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of David Hughes
> > >> Sent: Monday, 13 December 2010 12:28 PM
> > >> To: ausnog (ausnog at ausnog.net)
> > >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Appropriate use of this list
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Skeeve,
> > >> 
> > >> The heart of this matter by your own admission is a commercial dispute.
> > >> Please keep your postings to this list focused on the technical issues.
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Thanks
> > >> 
> > >> David
> > >> ...
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> On 13/12/2010, at 10:57 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> > >> 
> > >>> David,
> > >>> 
> > >>> The heart of this matter is a technical matter, and very important
> > >> one to the internet community.  This is an issue that everyone should
> > >> be worried about, and that even concerns the Federal Police (from the
> > >> network perspective).
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> ...Skeeve
> > >>> 
> > >>> --
> > >>> Skeeve Stevens, CEO
> > >>> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> > >>> skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
> > >>> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
> > >>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
> > >>> www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
> > >>> --
> > >>> eintellego - The Experts that the Experts call
> > >>> - Juniper - HP Networking - Cisco - Brocade - Arista - Allied Telesis
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> > >>>> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of David Hughes
> > >>>> Sent: Monday, 13 December 2010 11:36 AM
> > >>>> To: ausnog (ausnog at ausnog.net)
> > >>>> Subject: [AusNOG] Appropriate use of this list
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> May I take this opportunity to remind everyone of the purpose and
> > >>>> charter of this mailing list.  This list exists for the discussion
> > >> of
> > >>>> technical and / or operation issues that are, or may be of interest
> > >> to
> > >>>> the general community of network operators in Australia.  It is not
> > >> to
> > >>>> be used for outlining details of commercial disputes or matters of a
> > >>>> legal nature between parties, even if those parties are network
> > >>>> operators and members of this list.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> David, on behalf of the AusNOG Board
> > >>>> ...
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