[AusNOG] NBN Co CEO Quigley Speech 20100818

[Nick Brown]

While I don't disagree with your comments regarding education aiding in not only reducing load but generally bettering health, if you think it's going to fix the problem you are delusional :)

The number of people seeking health care is only going to increase in line with population growth.

Hospitals need resources, be it funding, incentives for people to train (not just doctors, we need more nurses) and political support from competent ministers. 

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On 21/08/2010, at 6:05 PM, Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net> wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> You saying I'm fat?..... Oh.. I am ;-)
> 
> I actually did mean to comment on that as well.. 
> 
> School canteens, better food, better exercise programmes... 
> 
> But also better parenting education which involves less of putting their kids in front of the playstation/tv/movies... 
> 
> Prevention programmes for diabetes, cancer pre-screening and all that sort of thing.
> 
> All those sort of things will add to taking the load off hospitals.
> 
> ...Skeeve
> 
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> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Smith
>> [mailto:nanog at 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org]
>> Sent: Saturday, 21 August 2010 4:08 PM
>> To: Skeeve Stevens
>> Cc: James Spenceley; John Edwards; ausnog at ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Co CEO Quigley Speech 20100818
>> 
>> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:04:21 +1000
>> Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually no.  Keeping people out of hospitals is what will save
>> hospitals.
>>> 
>>> The actual hospital capacity isn't the major issue, the issues are:
>>> 
>>> - people filling it up unnecessarily
>>> - poor equipment
>>> - not enough quality staff
>>> - Diagnostic medicine companies charging a ton
>>> 
>>> You fix those things and hospitals.
>>> 
>>> The ideas that have been floated so that nurses can prescribe certain
>> types of medications, do home visits and deal with most triage issues
>> are what is needed.
>>> 
>>> Community Nursing, Online doctors (I'd like to know more about this
>> one), and nationalisation of the hospital system is what we need.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Actually, what we need is more healthy people, because they don't need
>> to go to a doctor or a hospital. Reducing the obesity rate would help
>> significantly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> ...Skeeve
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
>>> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
>>> skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
>>> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
>>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
>>> www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
>>> --
>>> NOC, NOC, who's there?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
>>>> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of James Spenceley
>>>> Sent: Friday, 20 August 2010 2:17 PM
>>>> To: John Edwards
>>>> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Co CEO Quigley Speech 20100818
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 19/08/2010, at 7:14 PM, John Edwards wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The solution to Australia's health is to do what it takes to keep
>>>> people out of Hospitals, not spend more money on buildings for sick
>>>> people.
>>>> 
>>>> Call me old fashioned but I think spending money on buildings for
>> sick
>>>> people and creating a culture which encourages their use, is an
>>>> excellent thing for a government to do.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> James
>>>> 
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