[AusNOG] background radiation was: "i want a pony!"(wasRe:Longlive the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal])

[Chris Chaundy]

Just for the 'younger' members of this group, there once was a
government department
that was basically in charge of *all* communications (telephone,
postal and telegraph -
watch some black-and-white movies if you want to know what this is :-)
- it was called
the PMG (Post Master General's department).  Telecom came into being
after this was
split up into the pre-privatization 'Telstra' and Australia Post (aka Auspost).

Also, do I need to remind people that while this list is inhabited by
ISP-types, the NBN
is not solely about the Internet - it will become a whole lot more
over time.  Simply trying
to shoe-horn everything into the Internet may be a poor technical
choice - remember ATM
was trying to be everything for everyone and what happened there...).

If the original Telstra privatization had been carefully thought
through and not screwed up,
we wouldn't be going through this whole NBN discussion now.

Now back to work...

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jason Lingohr <jason at lucid.net.au> wrote:
> Hear hear!  Whomever claims PMG "plan" works today should be shot.
>
>
> On 12/08/2010 7:20 PM, Curtis Bayne wrote:
>
> Wait. I'm confused. We're using the construction and subsequent sale of PMG
> (now Telstra) as the definition of success of a state-owned telco monopoly,
> whilst on the other hand, a consortium of providers are complaining about
> anti-competitive practices?
>
> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/354465/bigpond_price_cuts_anger_internode_iinet/
>
> What's to say that once independent infrastructure is eliminated that the
> same practices won't emerge (especially if the new shareholders of the NBN
> have a vested interest in the telecommunications industry)...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Moyle-Croft [mailto:mmc at internode.com.au]
> Sent: Thu 8/12/2010 6:42 PM
> To: roland at chan.id.au
> Cc: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net; Curtis Bayne; ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] background radiation was: "i want a
> pony!"(wasRe:Longlive the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal])
>
> Brilliant Roland.
>
> PMG built the PSTN with regulatory certainty for more than 80 years.   Money
> was invested and built out for the good of all, then it was sold off.
>
> So, the Government is just following a proven business model.
>
> What's not to like?
>
> MMC
>
> On 12/08/2010, at 5:22 PM, <roland at chan.id.au> wrote:
>
>> Who built the PSTN? Who paid for it? Did they get a fair return from
>> decades of line rental  and the eventual sale of Telstra?
>>
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