[AusNOG] Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal]

[Curtis Bayne]

I find it most interesting that the much-needed realism on-list is coming from the financial/executive demographic, who have a real understanding of how complex and intristic the justification of such significant capital expenditure really is.

"Field of Dreams" is not a legitimate business strategy.

Sent from my HTC Touch Pro

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Biber <mbiber at ipv6forum.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 3:47 PM
To: ausnog at ausnog.net <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal]

Mark,
I'm not saying that there's demand from the great unwashed yet as many don't
know what a true near instantaneous broadband experience is really like and
what they would be prepared to pay for...but when they do, they will. Just
because MRTG isn't producing the demand curves now or in the past, doesn't
mean that the demand won't be there. As others have said, I want a much
better return for my tax $'s...whether they be $6B+ or <$43B. I happen to
think the 12Mbps as being particularly short-sighted.

I applaud you attempting to inject some realism but I want the vision and I
want to give it a chance to work.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Newton [mailto:newton at internode.com.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 1:53 PM
To: mbiber at ipv6forum.com.au
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal]


On 11/08/2010, at 1:03 PM, Michael Biber wrote:

> 12Mbps doesn't cut it today for the average household/farm...it's
hopelessly
> underpowered for anything coming, IMHO

I find it fascinating that people would say that on this list, of all
places.

If the AusNOG crowd doesn't have a good handle on the bitrates used in real
life by actual real-life users then what hope do the politicians have?

PS: I reckon "12 Mbps doesn't cut it today for the average household/farm"
is
total bullshit.  And I reckon there are at least a hundred people on this
list
with several years of archived MRTG graphs which tell them I'm right.

Just sayin'.

  - mark :-)

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