[AusNOG] Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal]

Michael Biber mbiber at ipv6forum.com.au
Wed Aug 11 13:33:22 EST 2010


One thing that seems to be missing is the sense of broadband's capacity to
simultaneously deliver the applications...it's not so much if 50Mbps
sufficient for HD videoconferencing, 20Mbps for IPTV, 5Mbps for rich
text/image browsing...but the capacity to do all these things
simultaneously...either for the one user or for the household of users...at
the same time.

12Mbps doesn't cut it today for the average household/farm...it's hopelessly
underpowered for anything coming, IMHO

I'm currently sitting in a building with 22 visible WiFi services...what's
the average throughput...I'd guess about 30kbps at present...dialup anyone?
(Tethered through 3 though). Wireless isn't going to cut it in a dense last
mile.

Mike Biber


-----Original Message-----
From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sykes
Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 12:53 PM
To: David Connors; ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Long live the NBN. The NBN is dead?! [personal]

David Connors writes.....
> Another thing lost on the one-eyed-NBN-at-any-cost nerds arguing in this 
> debate is that there are entire sectors of the population who don't give 
> a toss about quality of service on the Internet- loading a web page is 
> FINE for a lot of people who just want to tool around on Facebook or
whatever



If you freeze the application capability at a point in time (e.g. Text
Webpages) then we would never have required DSL.

If you are building this network for "Facebook", then I mostly agree, you
probably won't see much difference between your Internode 25M service and a
Fibre 25M Service. However, making the "internet" faster is clearly not the
only goal here. 

There are clearly other applications (and more to emerge) which either (a)
simply cannot be provided using current infrastructure, or (b) may work, but
suffer from the lack of determinism in the copper loop and can't be offered
on a consistent basis.

 



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