[AusNOG] NBN Co Layer 2 vs. Layer 3 Services

[Daniel Hood]

They are putting in a multicast network?

Is it just like the MBone (or whatever they used to call it)?

Daniel

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM, David Hooton
<david.hooton at platformnetworks.net> wrote:
> The sessions I've been to said they are building a Layer 2 access network,
> with exception of the multicast network which they are handling at layer 3.
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> Mike Quigley was pretty explicit that the NBN just want to be plumbers and
> provide pipes, they don't want to get involved in innovation or service
> delivery beyond the provision of tubes.
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> Cheers
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> Dave
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> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of McDonald Richards
> Sent: Thursday, 22 April 2010 9:23 AM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Co Layer 2 vs. Layer 3 Services
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> I’ve been to a couple of their workshops now and from what I can tell, NBN
> Co have no intention of providing a layer 3 service. Where are the other
> voices and are they people with clue or just opinion pieces from industry
> commentators?
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> Macca
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> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
> Sent: Thursday, 22 April 2010 9:03 AM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: [AusNOG] NBN Co Layer 2 vs. Layer 3 Services
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> Hey all,
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> Just a quick question.
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> At the moment there is a lot of talk of NBN and whether they are going to
> deliver Layer 2 or Layer 3 services.
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> I am a little confused about what is meant by that.  In that as ISP’s, I
> would assume that we would only want Layer 2 services from them? Just in
> kind of a DSL Wholesale/Ethernet wholesale/etc situation that we already
> have.
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> Most of our ISP customers would be happy if the NBN operated just like the
> current wholesale models out there at the moment.  Little ISP calls his
> aggregator and says he wants a NBN VLAN to this address which they get from
> NBNCo (if directly if you are big enough and can afford to interconnect
> yourself), which is turned on and presented at an aggregation port... very
> much like taking wholesale ethernet from Pipe, Nextgen, Telstra and others
> today.
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> This makes sense to me.
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> But there is a bunch of voices saying they want the NBN Co to do Layer 3...
> and I am not quite sure what is meant by that?  Users buy bandwidth off the
> NBN Co? Turning them into a retail ISP?
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> If this seems like a stupid question, I am sorry about that... but there are
> some voices who have access to presenting their views and are doing so about
> NBN should be doing Layer 3... and I am trying to find some understanding
> about what is actually being suggested.
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> ...Skeeve
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