[AusNOG] Web filter a runaway success: Exetel

Bevan Slattery Bevan.Slattery at staff.pipenetworks.com
Wed May 6 10:41:38 EST 2009


We do have stub braching units currently available 120km out of sydney and a few hundred km south of PNG :) 

B


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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net 
To: ausnog at ausnog.net 
Sent: Wed May 06 10:24:09 2009
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Web filter a runaway success: Exetel 


Just been to see "The Boat that Rocked".
 
Can I interest anyone in setting up a web hosting business on a ship outside the
territorial limits?   Moor it over PPC-1 and get Bev to hook you up!
 
Scott


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	From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Moyle-Croft
	Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2009 9:38 PM
	To: ausnog at ausnog.net
	Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Web filter a runaway success: Exetel
	
	
	And just so no one thinks this is a good idea:
	
	http://www.efa.org.au/2009/05/05/efa-gets-link-removal-notice/
	
	Insane and angry making.
	
	MMC
	
	Mark Newton wrote: 

		On 05/05/2009, at 6:51 PM, Kai wrote:
		
		  

			Mmmm, so the article doesn't tell the full story, figures, but what's
			the bet that certain people in certain places will use this one  
			article
			to basically say "Hey, see, the filter aint ALL bad..." :S
			    

		
		The problem is that Peter Mancer from Watchdog has already admitted that
		it can't satisfy even the most watered-down of the Government's  
		requirements,
		because it can't cope with URLs hosted on high-traffic sites occupying
		the blacklist.
		
		Remember:  Since last year, Conroy has claimed that he wants the ACMA
		prohibited list to be blocked.  When the ACMA prohibited list was leaked
		that position became politically hilarious, so he changed his tune to
		"almost exclusively RC" (SBS Insight 31 March 2009), then "We've
		never stated that we were going to do anything other than Refused
		Classification" (Triple J Hack, 7 April 2009)
		http://newmatilda.com/polliegraph/?p=567
		
		The problem is that the Classification Board has Refused Classification
		to several YouTube videos, which means the ultimate "high traffic site"
		is on the blacklist even after Conroy has changed all the definitions.
		
		And Mancer has said that high-traffic sites will blow his system's  
		brains
		out.  Indeed, the failure mode is exactly the same (and for exactly the
		same reason) as the IWF Wikipedia failure in the UK in early December.
		
		Mancer's proposed solution is to whitelist high-traffic sites, so they  
		won't
		be blocked even if the Government insists that they must be.
		
		So Exetel has had a "runaway success" in testing a system which cannot
		satisfy the Government's requirements.
		
		Can Exetel deploy Mancer's censorbox without a Government mandate to
		deploy a voluntary filtering service in response to demand from their
		customers?  By all means, and more power to them.  Hope it works out
		for them.
		
		But will that meet the dictates of the Government's stated policy?
		Nope.  They'll need another, untested censorbox to do that.
		
		   - mark
		
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