[AusNOG] [LINK] [ISOC-AU-mems] Happy Birthday ... AARNet

dasmo dasmo at dasmo.net
Tue Mar 17 18:08:11 EST 2009


Seems to me the problem is cash. ISPs won't eat it. Probably need it  
subsidised by the government. Some transit providers still aren't ipv6  
compatible, there's customer equiptment that needs to be replaced and  
there's no authority setting a deadline like the digital tv system.  
Plus, it's hard to explain the benefits to an end user who will most  
likely see the issues now rather than a solution to an issue from the  
future.

Would be a better use of money than that stupid filter though.

On 17/03/2009, at 16:57, Mark Smith <marksmith at adam.com.au> wrote:

> Geoff Huston wrote:
>>> I specifically remember a slip connection to Hawaii growing from  
>>> 1200
>>> bps to 2400 bps preceeding the 56Kb frame relay connection.
>>
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> Yawn. That was years ago. On to today's problems. What are we going  
>> to
>> do given that noone is doing anything remotely serious in IPv6 and  
>> the
>> crunch time of IPv4 address exhaustion is getting ever closer? If we
>> can't manage to preserve some level of protocol coherence across the
>> network in the coming few years then we may end up not much better  
>> off
>> than the situation on 20 years ago. Or do we say goodbye to all this
>> end-to-end IP stuff and just run client sever over http and forget
>> than anything else was ever possible?
>>
>
> I don't think Internet end-users are aware of the problem, let a alone
> what it is, why its occurring, and what the consequences will be. They
> haven't been told what it is, and they don't know to ask for it.
>
> That seems to me to be a marketing problem. We need to get the message
> to the Internet end-user market that the Internet is heading towards a
> wall, and needs to be upgraded. We need to explain in very simple  
> terms,
> what the problem is - "The Internet is running out of phone numbers!"
> (and then explain that public Internet addresses are like phone  
> numbers)
> - I think should be a simple enough place to start.
>
> Who should run this campaign? ISOC or the IPv6 Forum (or both) I  
> reckon.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mark.
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