[AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering

[roland at chan.id.au]

It's essentially the same complaints based process that is used to trigger takedown notices so: yes, someone will watch the material.

The filter is just a list of URLs that someone complained about, ACMA assessed and decided are RC.

Also, I don't think there's much in the way of taxpayer funds going in.

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Darren Moss" <Darren.Moss at em3.com.au>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:10:33 
To: Ben Grubb<ben at techwiredau.com>
Cc: <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>; Skeeve Stevens<Skeeve at eintellego.net>; <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering

That was very good viewing.

I had no idea X-rated content was not included.

How will "the filter" determine if x-rated content does not contain
"inappropriate" or "child related" material ?
Is somebody going to watch material and make a determination ? 

Maybe we should ask the porn manufacturers to adhere to a classification
standard. You think.

I understand there is a great deal of contention regarding this topic,
but all emotive comments aside, surely we are not yet ready for
"solution mode" when fundamentals are not in order. Given taxpayers'
money is about to be spent on this, I would be very nervous about the
potential (lack of) results.

It appears a classic case of business making plans which are not
technically sound, not to mention wasting millions of dollars and the
time of service providers who are already battling to maintain third
party compliance (AFACT vs iiNet current example).

A simple web browser proxy setting or tunnel will defeat the whole
filter.

Whilst some of the general public, who choose to defeat "the filter",
won't give a toss for AUSNOG (and other group) rantings, the biggest
issue I see is that we are all going to be forced to pay for compliance
(infrastructure and software) when the very people who we are supposed
to be protecting will just proxy around it anyway.

Regards, 
 
 
Darren Moss
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Grubb [mailto:ben at techwiredau.com] 
Sent: 2009-12-17 8:39 pm
To: Darren Moss
Cc: Curtis Bayne; ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net; Skeeve Stevens; Mark
Smith; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhAJgrISMrI 

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Ben Grubb

On 17/12/2009, at 8:14 PM, Darren Moss wrote:

> I think Ten re-runs 7pm Project after Late News.
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