[AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange

[Sean K. Finn]

What about what the product really did best?

Carriers, Racks And Peering.. ?

I Jest!  I Jest!

-Sean.

From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Craig Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 5:48 PM
To: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange

How about:

Wideband Extensible Ethernet Telco Backbone Internet eXchange

:)

-- Craig Meyers

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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Cameron Murray
Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 5:24 PM
To: Mark Caetano
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange

AWIX - Australian Wide Internet Exchange

Your Thoughts?
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Mark Caetano <mark at akami.info<mailto:mark at akami.info>> wrote:
AUIX sounds fitting.

On 16/12/2009, at 5:56 PM, Steve Baxter wrote:

> NISP
> AUIX
> AusBone
> SIX
> BIX
> VIX
>
> What will you call it ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> SB
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>
>> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] On Behalf Of Curtis Bayne
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:30 PM
>> To: Adrian Chadd; Daragh Mc Grath
>> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
>>
>> This is a concept which I have been considering in depth for
>> about two years now.
>>
>> It's gone as far as a planning stage, but we pulled back in
>> the belief that, as a commercial organization, we do not add
>> any value over current commercial operations - put quite
>> simply, it's a "nice to have" but as an commercial venture it
>> is doomed to failure (this is a testament to the quality of
>> PIPE's product).
>>
>> I am both willing and able to participate, whether it be
>> financially or through the provision of space (co-location or
>> otherwise) to make a venture such as this a reality.
>>
>> Anyone in Brisbane who is *serious* about making this happen
>> can contact me either on or off list - I am happy to provide
>> resources, strategic direction or moral support (whatever is
>> most needed) and I don't doubt there are others like me
>> willing to support this kind of operation.
>>
>> Curtis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Adrian Chadd
>> Sent: Wed 12/16/2009 4:11 PM
>> To: Daragh Mc Grath
>> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Carrier Independent Peering Exchange
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009, Daragh Mc Grath wrote:
>>> I'm glad to see this discussion has been kicked off here, it's
>>> something I've thought about on and off over the past few years.
>>>
>>> Having worked for a major European exchange in the past (LINX) I've
>>> been disappointed by the approach to peering here in
>> Australia since I
>>> moved around 2 years ago. Not having the big telco's present at
>>> exchange points is the obvious cause, and given their
>> willingness to
>>> participate at other exchange points around the world but
>> not at home, this is disappointing.
>>
>> There's reasons for this.
>>
>>> I believe that unless you have the major players engaged, an
>>> alternative exchange is not going to happen (or may do, but
>> won't be
>>> as successful as it should!). The best way of trying to
>> encourage that
>>> is for an exchange to be setup as outlined by MMC, mutually
>> owned and
>>> most importantly, operate as a not for profit. To quote
>> LINX, existing for the good of the internet.
>>>
>>> I will be following this thread with interest.
>>
>> The large telcos don't peer publicly because they want to
>> sell transit.
>> Larger ISPs that started peering when they were smaller ISPs
>> are waking up to this.
>>
>> ISPs in the European/American markets have woken up to this.
>> You can't necessarily get peering with everyone these days.
>> The telco's may be at an IX but they won't peer with you at
>> it. The reason the large telco's were historically at the AU
>> IXes is because of the MLPA mandate.
>> It does not at all mean they do not peer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Adrian
>>
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