[AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering

[Skeeve Stevens]

It is interesting.  If the carriers have to do it... maybe the downstreams don't, saving a lot of money.

But, then we need to consider peering... argghhhh *head in sand*

...Skeeve

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-
> bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Nick Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 11:56 AM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Conroy announcement on filtering
> 
> I've been trying to get an answer on this for months and every time I
> ask heads go into the sand..
> 
> While I don't anticipate a backlash from RESDSL customers (VISPs or
> direct retail) or even BUSDSL customers (Where the service is
> specifically *not* being used as backhaul - don't forget their are
> alot of regional ISPs that have their Wireless, Dial or even DSL
> customers hanging of low end SHDSL services) I envision that if we
> were to tell transit customers that they can expect their packets to
> be messed with, knives would be thrown - and I wouldn't blame them for
> doing so.
> 
> Nick.
> 
> 
> On 16/12/2009, at 11:36 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> 
> > Question,
> >
> > Does anyone know the finer points of this proposal... meaning... is
> > it aimed/directed at consumer/retail ISP's - which seems to be their
> > justification - or to all ISP's who sell connectivity.. and what is
> > the flow down effect?
> >
> > I.e.  Does Vocus have to do this? Does Telstra Direct?  If I have an
> > ISP we manage who has say both of those as transit providers, who
> > are (?) filtered, do we then have to worry as the upstreams are?  It
> > would be kind of redundant?
> >
> > So, let's ponder that companies like Vocus, MCI, etc who only sell
> > transit to businesses... or a business focused ISP - do they have to
> > filter?
> >
> > I have some Micro sized ISP's - like PowerTel partners and alike...
> > do they have to filter?  They only have a few hundred connections
> > and only to businesses.
> >
> > Just pondering eintellego's response, but don't actually see
> > anything that differentiates what an ISP is.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
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> > Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
> > eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> > skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
> > Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
> > Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
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