[AusNOG] UDP Flooding Issues

Curtis Bayne curtis at bayne.com.au
Thu Jun 19 14:18:35 EST 2008


Are these the same routing police that get narky when you deaggregate for TE? ;)

Curtis
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From: ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net [ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net] On Behalf Of James Spenceley [james at vocus.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2008 2:19 PM
To: Phillip Grasso
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net; Sean K. Finn
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] UDP Flooding Issues

expect a lot of phone calls and email from the routing police,  people
tend to get *really* upset when you do this.

--
James


On 19/06/2008, at 1:23 PM, Phillip Grasso wrote:

> well if it's an insignificant ISP and you wanted to do some
> *extremely* dodgy, then via the return path advertise their ASN
> (prepend the offending AN number) in your announcements. this will
> force their routers to drop your routes as it should be a bgp loop
> prevention mechanism. There are lots of things that might stop this
> from happening, including route filters on in the path inbetween.
>
> Otherwise the simplier method is to contact them or your isp to filter
> to traffic in question.
>
> 2008/6/19 Sean K. Finn <Sean.Finn at ozservers.com.au>:
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know any techniqiues or ways to block BGP adverts to
>> third party
>> AS's, or a similar method for dropping routes *to* our AS from a
>> distant,
>> non directly connected AS ?
>>
>>
>>
>> For example, is there a way to inject or craft maybe a network
>> unreachable
>> message or something that we can send to the offending A.S. to
>> remove their
>> routing information for *our* network / AS / IP ranges?
>>
>>
>>
>> My scenario is that I'm trying to block UDP floods to our network,
>> and I'm
>> sure many of you have had experience with this. Im not looking for
>> a total
>> solution, although If you have any recommendations , that would be
>> great.
>> What I'm really after is just once peice of the puzzle to see if we
>> can
>> selectively choose which remote networks we are visible, as a
>> direct first
>> step to stopping attacks until a human can intervene.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sean.
>>
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