[AusNOG Classifieds] v4Now Announcement: Update on Current Available Ranges

Davis, James W. JAMES.DAVIS at woodside.com.au
Wed Jul 30 17:09:23 EST 2014


By profiting on the transaction, aren't you essentially selling a service?





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   1. Re: v4Now Announcement: Update on Current Available Ranges -
      July 2014 (Skeeve Stevens)


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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:56:36 +1000
From: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnogclassifieds at eintellegonetworks.com>
To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au>
Cc: classifieds <classifieds at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG Classifieds] v4Now Announcement: Update on
	Current Available Ranges - July 2014
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Yes I do profit... but, from connecting people who need what each other have.

And IP resources is something that some of Ausnog desperately need... and will increasingly need even more.

I am just trying to facilitate people getting what they need.  I started this to HELP people, not to make money - and we don't make a lot anyway.

Would you prefer to deal with the American traders who run auctions and screw you for as much as possible?

My point is that by the charter, I am NOT a vendor as I am NOT selling anything, but connecting other people up with what they need.

I really expect more from people here... it seems as though some don't want to help others in the community, and some are pissed because they aren't making anything? wtf?


...Skeeve

*Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com

Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve

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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Nathan Brookfield < Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au> wrote:

>  You profit from the sale though and charge a fee for it, don?t you? I 
> am a supporter of what you?re trying to do but it?s no different to 
> anyone else trying to sell a commercial product for financial benefit.
>
>
>
> *From:* Classifieds [mailto:classifieds-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On 
> Behalf Of *Skeeve Stevens
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 July 2014 4:46 PM
> *To:* David Hughes
> *Cc:* classifieds
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG Classifieds] v4Now Announcement: Update on 
> Current Available Ranges - July 2014
>
>
>
> Ok, but I do NOT agree.. we are NOT a vendor, as we do not own the 
> address space.  The space is owned by the end-user, and we're simply 
> representing it.. like a real-estate agent. Even any transaction is 
> between the seller and buyer.
>
>
>
> So in my opinion (and others), we're not the vendor at all....   This just
> really seems like people being a pain in the ass for the sake of it.  
> This list is for the benefit of the community, and helping the 
> community is what we're doing (whether we benefit or not).
>
>
>
> I request that you clarify the charter, either to specifically include 
> people brokering, but not selling, or to exclude it... and if you 
> exclude it, you should run a poll on the list to see how the community 
> feels about it, not just those who whinge.
>
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
>
>
> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>
> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>
> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>
> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>
> twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
>
>   The Experts Who The Experts Call
>
> Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:28 PM, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> Actually Skeeve, as previously discussed, in our opinion you are a vendor.
>  You are a commercial entity that generates revenue from the sale of 
> the resources your are advertising.  As such your emails relating to 
> the sale of other peoples address space are not within the charter of 
> either the AusNOG list or the AusNOG Classifieds list.
>
>
>
> Anybody on the list that wishes to sell THEIR OWN address space can do 
> so quite happily within the charter of the Classifieds list.
>
>
>
> Skeeve, again, please refrain from sending emails of this nature to 
> the list.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> David - on behalf of the moderators
>
> ...
>
>
>
> On 30/07/2014, at 2:00 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnogclassifieds at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Relax Damian.  We're not a vendor, but a broker.  There is a difference.
>
>
>
> We're just trying to connect buyers and sellers with what they need... 
> in the network operator space.  Why would you be upset about that?  We 
> don't post very often and have limited to a maximum of once per month.
>
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
>
>
> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>
> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>
> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>
> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>
> twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
>
>   The Experts Who The Experts Call
>
> Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Damian Guppy <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From the list charter for this mailing list:
>
>
>
> >The list is for network operators to post to, not vendors to 
> >advertise
> on.
>
>
>
> I take this email as a vendor advertising, so I think this is a 
> violation of the charter.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Damian
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnogclassifieds at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>   *IPv4 Announcement* *Update on Current Available Ranges*
>
>
>  v4Now represents holders of IPv4 resources who are interested in 
> selling all or part of their holding. Code FN194 - Resource Size: */17 
> (or 2*/18)* Code
> LP185 - Resource Size: */18 (or 2*/19)* Code SB028 - Resource Size: 
> */20, /21, /22, /23* Code LW219 - Resource Size: */20 (or 2*/21)* Code 
> BX005 - Resource Size: */21* Code FC022 - Resource Size: */19* Code 
> BN012 - Resource Size: */16 (RIPE)* Code SW015 - Resource Size: */16 
> (RIPE)* Code
> RT029 - Resource Size: */16 (RIPE)* Code BO026 - Resource Size: */21, 
> /22, /23, /24 (RIPE)*
>
> Region: APNIC & RIPE
> Price: All reasonable offers will be presented to resource holders
>
> Please visit: http://v4now.com/ip-resource-offer/ to make an offer.
>
>
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
>
>
> *Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker*
>
> *v4Now - *an eintellego Networks service
>
> skeeve at v4now.com ; www.v4now.com
>
> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>
> facebook.com/v4now ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>
> twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
>
>   IP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyers
>
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