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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As much as I hate to post this kind of reply to the list, since we’ve been ‘outed’ already by others (thank you for your generous comments, I’ll pay you later ; ) I’ll offer just this comment:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>RouterOS is very stable lately – has been for a while now, since they moved to a three tier software release structure: “testing, stable, long term” (ordered from least stable to most) – ‘long term’ is essentially a ‘bugfix’ stream which includes only ‘fixed bugs’ from the prior build and so not affected by ‘new features’ that may introduce unknown bugs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>But for just L2 switching including vlan and bonding, 300 series switches can do it all in hardware – so super ‘wire speed’ fast and virtually no chance of software bug : )<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>(btw – MikroTik is suffering massive components shortage too, so many models are somewhat scarce at the moment ):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rhys Hanrahan<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 21 October 2021 10:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jeremy Chequer <jeremy@resolvergroup.com.au>; Evan Dent <evan@evandent.com>; <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FS.com for temporary 10G switch?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks guys! Appreciate the quick feedback. I honestly didn’t realise Mikrotik did switches, but it sounds like this is a more popular option, and probably the route I’d go with.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I don’t think I’ll end up using any L3 features honestly, but would RouterOS instead of SwOS be considered the more established path, and more stable? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It’s been a long time since I’ve used Mikrotik and I’ve known the routers at least to have some crash bugs/stability issues in the past? (Though that may have been due to a particular feature mix – I’m hoping just VLANs would be rock solid).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Rhys.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Chequer<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 21 October 2021 9:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Evan Dent <<a href="mailto:evan@evandent.com">evan@evandent.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FS.com for temporary 10G switch?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ubiquiti is having some pretty intense stock issues. If you truly only need for a short period FS could be okay but honestly would be toward the bottom of the list, with a few alternatives doing much better and being easier to obtain - such as the Mikrotiks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=ms-outlook-mobile-signature><p class=MsoNormal>Get <a href="https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg">Outlook for Android</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> on behalf of Evan Dent <<a href="mailto:evan@evandent.com">evan@evandent.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 21, 2021 8:41:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FS.com for temporary 10G switch?</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=left width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td style='background:#BEDCFF;padding:5.25pt 1.5pt 5.25pt 1.5pt'></td><td width="100%" style='width:100.0%;background:black;padding:5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt 11.25pt;word-wrap:break-word'><div><p class=xmsonormal style='mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"` Segoe UI`",serif;color:white'>[External Sender] Be cautious of any links or attachments within this email as it has come from an External Sender.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>While I cannot comment on <a href="http://fs.com">fs.com</a>, this could be another option. In stock now and cheap. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <a href="https://store.duxtel.com/crs326_24s_2q_rm">https://store.duxtel.com/crs326_24s_2q_rm</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, 21 Oct 2021, 9:04 pm Rhys Hanrahan, <<a href="mailto:rhys@nexusone.com.au">rhys@nexusone.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=xmsonormal>Hi Everyone,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>I am considering using FS.com for a temporary 10G switch as they seem cheap and I should be able to get my hands on it in a week or two. Does anyone have any experience with FS switches? Or any other recommendations? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>This isn’t something I wanted to resort to but timing has meant I need something cheap that can act as a largely dumb switch with 8 or so 1/10G SFP+ ports, till I can sort out the Juniper QFX boxes I am intending to get. All I need it for is the ports, and some basic VLAN tagging and trunking. And I just need it to not fail for a couple of months :-) Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>I am considering:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xm2677236290658095091msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span><a href="https://www.fs.com/au/products/122280.html" target="_blank">https://www.fs.com/au/products/122280.html</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xm2677236290658095091msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span><a href="https://www.fs.com/au/products/122281.html" target="_blank">https://www.fs.com/au/products/122281.html</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xm2677236290658095091msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span><a href="https://www.fs.com/au/products/108710.html" target="_blank">https://www.fs.com/au/products/108710.html</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>Also considering a Ubuiquiti ES<span style='font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'>‑</span>16<span style='font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'>‑</span>XG however an admittedly brief search suggests this would be hard to find in stock anywhere.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>Appreciate any suggestions/feedback. Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal><b><span style='color:black'>Rhys Hanrahan</span></b><span style='color:black'> | Chief Information Officer<br><b>e:</b> </span><u><span style='color:#0563C1'><a href="mailto:rhys@nexusone.com.au" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0563C1'>rhys@nexusone.com.au</span></a></span></u><span style='color:black'> <br><br></span><a href="http://www.nexusone.com.au/" target="_blank" title="http://www.nexusone.com.au/"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=229 height=58 id="x_m_2677236290658095091Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D7C6C2.996BC190" alt=www.nexusone.com.au></span></a><span style='color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><br></span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#0070C0'><br></span></b><b><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F4E79'>NEXUS ONE</span></b><b><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#0070C0'><br></span><span style='color:black'>p:</span></b><span style='color:black'> 1800 NEXUS1 (1800 639 871) <b>|</b> <b>a:</b> Suite 12.03 Level 12, 227 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000<br></span><u><span lang=DE style='color:#0563C1'><a href="http://www.nexusone.com.au" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.nexusone.com.au</span></a></span></u><span lang=DE style='color:black'><br></span><span style='color:black'><br></span><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#767171'>The information in this email and any accompanying attachments may contain; a. 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