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<div dir="auto">For what it's worth, I wouldn't rely 100% on their most stable tier. The way releases are published without always being staged to LTS isn't proper. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=179260">https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=179260</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That's about the current long-term dot release.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For the most part though, it is fairly safe. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="aqm-signature" dir="auto" style="color: black;"><div dir="auto">Luke Thompson</div><div dir="auto">Operations Manager</div></div><div dir='auto'><br></div>
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<p style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; margin: 8pt 0;">On 22 October 2021 2:20:32 pm Rhys Hanrahan <rhys@nexusone.com.au> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks all, really appreciate the comments on stability being good now. I know my experiences are from many years ago, and all the feedback (on and
off-list) gives me confidence this is a good way to go!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Rhys.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 22 October 2021 1:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com>; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FS.com for temporary 10G switch?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#212121">+1 on MT CRS3xx for switching.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#212121">Running 7 of those in production(various xx versions) using v6 ROS, with jumbo MTU frames / vlan / esxi 7 workloads<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#212121">The past year's long term releases have been smooth sailing from my experience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on behalf of Mike Everest <<a href="mailto:mike@duxtel.com">mike@duxtel.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 22, 2021 12:02:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FS.com for temporary 10G switch?</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As much as I hate to post this kind of reply to the list, since we’ve been ‘outed’ already by others (thank you for your generous comments, I’ll pay you later
; ) I’ll offer just this comment:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">RouterOS is very stable lately – has been for a while now, since they moved to a three tier software release structure: “testing, stable, long term” (ordered
from least stable to most) – ‘long term’ is essentially a ‘bugfix’ stream which includes only ‘fixed bugs’ from the prior build and so not affected by ‘new features’ that may introduce unknown bugs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">But for just L2 switching including vlan and bonding, 300 series switches can do it all in hardware – so super ‘wire speed’ fast and virtually no chance of software
bug : )</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(btw – MikroTik is suffering massive components shortage too, so many models are somewhat scarce at the moment ):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Cheers!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rhys Hanrahan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 21 October 2021 10:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeremy Chequer <<a href="mailto:jeremy@resolvergroup.com.au">jeremy@resolvergroup.com.au</a>>; Evan Dent <<a href="mailto:evan@evandent.com">evan@evandent.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FS.com for temporary 10G switch?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks guys! Appreciate the quick feedback. I honestly didn’t realise Mikrotik did switches, but it sounds like this is a more popular option, and probably the route I’d go
with.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I don’t think I’ll end up using any L3 features honestly, but would RouterOS instead of SwOS be considered the more established path, and more stable?
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It’s been a long time since I’ve used Mikrotik and I’ve known the routers at least to have some crash bugs/stability issues in the past? (Though that may have been due to
a particular feature mix – I’m hoping just VLANs would be rock solid).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rhys.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Chequer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 21 October 2021 9:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Evan Dent <<a href="mailto:evan@evandent.com">evan@evandent.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FS.com for temporary 10G switch?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Ubiquiti is having some pretty intense stock issues. If you truly only need for a short period FS could be okay but honestly would be toward the bottom of the list, with a few alternatives doing much better and being easier to obtain -
such as the Mikrotiks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">While I cannot comment on <a href="http://fs.com">fs.com</a>, this could be another option. In stock now and cheap.
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<p class="xmsonormal"> <a href="https://store.duxtel.com/crs326_24s_2q_rm">https://store.duxtel.com/crs326_24s_2q_rm</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">On Thu, 21 Oct 2021, 9:04 pm Rhys Hanrahan, <<a href="mailto:rhys@nexusone.com.au">rhys@nexusone.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal">Hi Everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal">I am considering using FS.com for a temporary 10G switch as they seem cheap and I should be able to get my hands on it in a week or two. Does anyone have any experience with FS switches? Or any other recommendations?
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<p class="xxmsonormal">This isn’t something I wanted to resort to but timing has meant I need something cheap that can act as a largely dumb switch with 8 or so 1/10G SFP+ ports, till I can sort out the Juniper QFX boxes I am intending to get. All I need it
for is the ports, and some basic VLAN tagging and trunking. And I just need it to not fail for a couple of months :-) Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal">I am considering:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><a href="https://www.fs.com/au/products/122280.html" target="_blank">https://www.fs.com/au/products/122280.html</a>
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</span><a href="https://www.fs.com/au/products/122281.html" target="_blank">https://www.fs.com/au/products/122281.html</a>
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</span><a href="https://www.fs.com/au/products/108710.html" target="_blank">https://www.fs.com/au/products/108710.html</a>
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<p class="xxmsonormal">Also considering a Ubuiquiti ES<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math",serif">‑</span>16<span style="font-family:"Cambria Math",serif">‑</span>XG however an admittedly brief search suggests this would be hard to find in stock anywhere.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal">Appreciate any suggestions/feedback. Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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