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    <p>Well I certainly wouldn't have 7 of them around my house if I had
      to buy them with advertising like that.......</p>
    <p>Mind you I didn't buy mine to begin with. :P</p>
    <p>The whole "listening all the time" bit isn't really all that
      accurate since it's just got a small looping buffer of audio to
      catch the wake word.<br>
      All of that is done entirely on device and that's trivial to
      verify by watching network traffic.<br>
      And they've been adding additional controls for sensitivity and
      managing the recordings which is nice.<br>
      There's always the mic off switch if you get really paranoid.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/1/21 11:23 pm, Kai wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:527ebbde-b99b-70ac-1db4-76b24bec32d8@westnet.com.au">Google
      Nest and similar products, promoted as personal and home assistant
      devices.
      <br>
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      I wonder how many people would buy them if they're promoted for
      what they do - personal privacy invasion and active surveillance,
      listening to and probably recording all conversations, learning
      the patterns when you leave/return home, how many people (voices)
      are in your house, what music you like, what time you use your air
      con...
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      "but it only works when I say 'hey, google' ", and how do you
      think it knows when you say "hey, google"? only one way - listen
      to everything.
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      On 29/1/21 2:52 pm, Chad Kelly wrote:
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      <blockquote type="cite">Hi All.
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        This is probably slightly OT but not totally.
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        Does the Telstra deal for being able to make calls through the
        Google Nest Audio speakers extend to the Telstra Wholesale
        network, or is it for retail customers only?
        <br>
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        Not too worried as I can just use the hardware Mike off button
        on the back of the device for when I need to use the phone to
        make calls, but its not a bad feature being able to make calls
        directly from the speaker itself.
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        Regards Chad.
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