<div dir="ltr">Completely a guess, but; Maybe something to do with automatic detection and remediation of incorrectly redistributed routes? Would be much easier to do this if you have a definitive list of bilateral peers.<div><br></div><div>On topic - We have bilateral peering with AS16509 over both Mel and Syd MegaIX, as well as IXAus Vic and EquinixIX Syd. These have all been stood up in the past 6 months, but it was ~8+ months after my initial request. I emailed the contact on the peeringdb page, the email seems to have changed so it's probably not prudent to share the old address. Unless we're talking about a significant traffic volume, I think patience is the only approach.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 at 10:35, Paul Holmanskikh <<a href="mailto:ausnog@pkholm.com">ausnog@pkholm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p id="gmail-m_8921255090755897739reply-intro">On 2021-01-09 01:14, James Murphy wrote:</p>
<p>Our BGP sessions to Amazon are up with 700+ prefixes received from them. So physically they still around.  Microsoft pulled yourself from RS on Megaport some time ago, now AWS. It becomes a trend now. What are they win by reducing connectivity?  </p>
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:small">Amazon stopped appearing under Mega IX Melbourne and Sydney on December 10th - something must have changed then.. (t<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">hanks </span><a href="http://data.caida.org/datasets/peeringdb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PeeringDB backups</a> [1][2]<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">)</span></span>
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<div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:small">They appear on the MegaIX looking glass, but with 0 advertised routes.</span></div>
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<div style="font-size:10px"><span style="font-size:small;font-family:Helvetica">[1] <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">curl+jq for </span>December 9th:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">curl -s <a href="http://data.caida.org/datasets/peeringdb/2020/12/peeringdb_2_dump_2020_12_09.json" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://data.caida.org/datasets/peeringdb/2020/12/peeringdb_2_dump_2020_12_09.json</a> | jq -cr '.net as $net | ($net.data | INDEX(.id)) as $netmap | .netixlan.data[] | select(.ix_id == 779 or .ix_id == 780) | ["netixlan", .ix_id, .name, "net", .net_id, ($netmap[(.net_id | tostring)] | .name)] | @tsv'</span></span><br style="font-size:10px">
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<div style="font-size:10px"><span style="font-size:small"><span style="font-family:Helvetica">[2] curl+jq for December 10th:</span></span></div>
<div style="font-size:10px"><span style="font-size:small"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">curl -s <a href="http://data.caida.org/datasets/peeringdb/2020/12/peeringdb_2_dump_2020_12_10.json" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://data.caida.org/datasets/peeringdb/2020/12/peeringdb_2_dump_2020_12_10.json</a> | jq -cr '.net as $net | ($net.data | INDEX(.id)) as $netmap | .netixlan.data[] | select(.ix_id == 779 or .ix_id == 780) | ["netixlan", .ix_id, .name, "net",</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> .net_id, ($netmap[(.net_id | tostring)] | .name)] | @tsv'</span></span></span></div>
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<div>On 8 Jan 2021, at 11:46 pm, Paul Holmanskikh <<a href="mailto:ausnog@pkholm.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ausnog@pkholm.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Is someone aware if AWS will do bilateral peering over MegaIX in Melbourne and Sydney? I noticed they are not in the Route Server and<span> </span><a style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline" href="http://peeringdb.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">peeringdb.com</a><span> </span>doesn't show them in those exchanges but the MegaIX looking glass does. If they do peering, do you have a contact email I can write to? I tried with<span> </span><a style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:peering-apac@amazon.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">peering-apac@amazon.com</a><span> </span>but haven't received a response.</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I saw a thread about this from 2018 in AusNOG that would indicate that they won't peer over MegaIX but maybe things have changed in a few years.</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Regards,</div>
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