<div dir="auto"></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, 3:49 pm Benjamin Ricardo, <<a href="mailto:ben.ricardo@acs.com.au">ben.ricardo@acs.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>“Over The Wire” <a href="http://overthewire.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">overthewire.com.au</a> to this list.. thanks for your help Chris.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 30 July 2020 11:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Darren Moss <<a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@cloud365.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Darren.Moss@cloud365.com.au</a>>; Benjamin Ricardo <<a href="mailto:ben.ricardo@acs.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ben.ricardo@acs.com.au</a>>; Jared Hirst <<a href="mailto:jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au</a>>; Bevan Slattery <<a href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>>; David Hughes <<a href="mailto:david@hughes.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">david@hughes.com.au</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">G’day Darren<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> on behalf of Darren Moss <<a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@cloud365.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Darren.Moss@cloud365.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:08:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Benjamin Ricardo <<a href="mailto:ben.ricardo@acs.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ben.ricardo@acs.com.au</a>>; Jared Hirst <<a href="mailto:jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au</a>>; Bevan Slattery <<a href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider</span> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Hi Ben,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Something else to keep in mind is that in some DC locations Telstra is the only mobile service that works reliably.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">We have deployments in Sydney DCs where both Optus and Vodafone just didn’t work.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">+1 for Mikrotik. They can be a hassle to get working properly but once running they are reliable.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">D.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Benjamin Ricardo<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 July 2020 10:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jared Hirst; Bevan Slattery; David Hughes<br>
<b>Cc:</b> AusNOG Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">Thanks for the input David, Bevan & Jared, also to the many others that responded privately.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">The call home idea is a good one Jared. One big advantage is the ability to be a bit carrier agnostic and use the provider with the best signal strength in the area. Mikrotik also do a bunch of gear with LTE support which seems to be pretty
flexible. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">I would prefer the public address delivered direct to the endpoint though (less moving parts… got to hate VPN lockups).<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">Far out Bevan $80k in OOB connections! We’re a touch shy of that.. eh hem..
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">Had I known how popular a topic this was I would not have worried about creating noise on the list!<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">For the many others interested; potential providers referred to me as a result of this request (listed FIFO) -
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">2SG (<a href="http://2sg.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2sg.com.au</a>) <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">Exetel <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">Field Solutions Group <– have not checked this out yet though.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">URL networks <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">Virtutel<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">ZettaNet (part of ZettaGrid)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">Connected Australia<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">Tim Sandy provided a table from his research (thanks mate)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">If I missed anyone, I am very sorry.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">Probably got as many as I can handle at this stage, thanks very much to all that responded the wealth of knowledge on this list is incredible.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_3912437818008484135xmsonormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 July 2020 7:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery <<a href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>>; David Hughes <<a href="mailto:david@hughes.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">david@hughes.com.au</a>>; Benjamin Ricardo <<a href="mailto:ben.ricardo@acs.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ben.ricardo@acs.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> AusNOG Mailing List <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:43 pm<br>
<b>To:</b> Benjamin Ricardo<br>
<b>Cc:</b> AusNOG Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] MBB Wholesale Service provider <u></u><u></u></p>
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