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Yes of course they peer at the peering points but the point I was making to get to Telstra, Optus, AAPT, iiNet, Foxtel, Belong (Those ISPs connect the vast amount of consumers) the traffic has to go overseas first. Also take into account the ISP's that filter
them out as it caused traffic to TPG to go via the USA for example</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> AusNOG <ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Patrick Cole <z@amused.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Joel Nath <joel@zonenetworks.com.au><br>
<b>Cc:</b> AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog@ausnog.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Hurricane Electric as a Transit provider.</font>
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<div class="PlainText">To clarify, HE do peer at many MLP exchanges in Australia which I do consider captures plenty of "major ISPs", but they do not to my knowledge (like cogent) have any domestic relationships with the GoF (as it used to be called), which
makes them quite unviable as a sole provider in au.<br>
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nsw-eqs2-ro-01#show ip bgp summ | in 6939<br>
45.127.173.24 4 6939 1401622 68173 215806180 0 0 6w0d 106080<br>
103.26.68.236 4 6939 1400978 68165 215806180 0 0 6w0d 106080<br>
218.100.52.249 4 6939 1396609 67850 215806180 0 0 6w0d 106080<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Patrick<br>
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Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 08:35:21AM +0000, Joel Nath wrote:<br>
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> HE and Cogent both don’t peer with any major ISP in AU, all domestic<br>
> traffic will go outside AU and then back<br>
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> From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bradley<br>
> Amm<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 July 2020 5:07 PM<br>
> To: Kyle Pharo <kyle@tangelo.com>; Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer@gmail.com><br>
> Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog@ausnog.net><br>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Hurricane Electric as a Transit provider.<br>
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> Just did a quick look.<br>
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> Traffic from Sydney to Telstra goes via Tokyo by the looks.<br>
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> Traffic to Optus goes via Hong Kong<br>
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> TPG via the USA<br>
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> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Kyle Pharo<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 July 2020 2:34 PM<br>
> To: Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer@gmail.com><br>
> Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog@ausnog.net><br>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Hurricane Electric as a Transit provider.<br>
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> Yeah, pays to do some research on what their access looks like in various<br>
> locations<br>
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> I’ve found their v6 peering to be great, v4 less so.<br>
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> Was looking at traffic between HE in Syd and KDDI in Tokyo, v6 went direct<br>
> to Tokyo, v4 went via the US<br>
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> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Jonathan<br>
> Brewer<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:18<br>
> To: Bradley Amm <brad@bradleyamm.id.au><br>
> Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog@ausnog.net><br>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Hurricane Electric as a Transit provider.<br>
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> I think lg.he.net will answer a lot of your questions. Personally I'm<br>
> disappointed they don't have a good Hawaii to Sydney or Auckland route,<br>
> but that's not something most people care about.<br>
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> On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, 13:14 Bradley Amm, <brad@bradleyamm.id.au> wrote:<br>
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> Do they peer/buy transit from Telstra, Optus in Australia yet<br>
> Last time I saw they send data to Telstra to Hong Kong or the USA first<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Drikus Brits<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 July 2020 1:08 PM<br>
> To: ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
> Subject: [AusNOG] Hurricane Electric as a Transit provider.<br>
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> Howdy folks,<br>
> <br>
> I'm keen to hear from other Aussie operators about their current or past<br>
> experience with using HE.NET as a IPT provider. It's time to renew our<br>
> contracts with existing IPT providers and HE's rates look attractive,<br>
> whether 1Y, 2Y or 3Y terms.<br>
> <br>
> I see pro's and con's with HE, with $$$ being a very good PRO for our<br>
> finance team, hehe.<br>
> <br>
> Thank you :)<br>
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